ifor besancon. but why not a pakistani grand? we can be a very productive people. if we don't educate our people, and if they are fed conspiracy theories, the europeans, the americans, you get a microchip will make your not a good muslim, they will not have the leading member of the technology business, for example and so all of that needs to change. but that can only come from this and you know, we are not buying this narrative. and of the same time, we keep pointing out what is not in america's interest. >> i think that's a great point. but the u.s. to simply stops buying into the narrative. some people talk about this, if you don't provide this aid or do this or do that. so the u.s. can just stop listening to these wines. which apparently have been the same for 50 or 60 years now. and to read your book i think it should be a textbook for any u.s. policymaker said that they could go into the relationship knowing that they are going to hear and then get past that. not only what pakistan is capable of, but understanding the dyer armageddon severity and not believin