ignatius and maria lopatinsky. saria is run by ignatius lopatinsky, a family of landowners who made a very big contribution to the development of this land. a magnificent library was created, many of whose houses were envied even by the vitebsk province. there was a wonderful art gallery here. very. there were many flowers that grew here both in winter and in summer, all this just so that the beloved woman igdatia lopotinsky, who lived in a remote village and felt, well, somehow deprived. ignatia and mary were examples of a strong marriage of sincere love. however, in 1851 , a terrible tragedy befell the young family. during a difficult birth , the still very young and beautiful maria passes away. was an unusual person, therefore, when such a terrible misfortune befalls him in fate, he does not fall from this blow, but on the contrary, it seems to me, he stands on his feet most firmly, because he understands that such relationships between the man and woman that he had with mary, he must perpetuate, he must leave y

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we are fortunate way to leading david ignatius foreign affairs columnist and author of 11 novels.orrespondent and chief for affairs correspondent for nbc news and host of msnbc andrea mitchell reports mr. prime minister or no to better journalists and qualified journals to join you in conversation. so thank you for taking the time to join us. withl that i will turn it over o you david and andrea. >> thank you very much. our thanks you for coming here and taking questions after a longweekend of negotiations in paris. we know you were in paris with the representatives from the united states, egypt and israel all there is a planned a framework that you all agree to this weekend to release the hostages and agreement with the phase pause in the fighting. women and children first. with aid going in as well. this is being presented as we understand it now to hamas for the past they have insisted on an immediate permanency fire before any hostages can be released. do you think there's a chance they might but their veto be a dealbreaker? >> thank you for giving this i think that i would de

later there was emperor alexander ii was killed by a bomb, which was thrown at him by the terrorist ignatiusvitsky. four people were killed, including the emperor and... the killer himself, and more than twenty people were wounded from the emperor's convoy and from passers-by who were on the street at that time. well let's go back to the present day. let's see what headlines appeared in the european media after the murder of vladlin tatarsky. an activist was arrested in st. petersburg, a pacifist was arrested. russia accuses dissidents of killing right-wing blogger. russia arrested an anti-war activist and so on and so forth. and there is not even a hint that this is a crime, that this is a terrorist act, that this is murder, that is, with all their might, all the media are leading the reader and audience away from the idea that this is a crime, that’s all that anything, just not a crime, but really, why not write? what western serpents write, when we can hear this in russian, from a person who lived most of his life in russia, the murder of fomin, this tatar, it absolutely legitimate accord

later there was killed by a bomb exploding by emperor alexander ii, a bomb thrown at him. terrorist ignatius, four people were killed, including the emperor and the killer himself, and more than twenty people were wounded from the emperor’s convoy and from passers-by who were on the street at that time. well, let's go back to our days, let's see what headlines appeared in the european media after the murder of vladlin tatarsky. russia accuses dissidents of killing right-wing blogger. russia arrests anti-war activist and so on and so forth. there is not even a hint anywhere that this is a crime, that this is... i spent most of my life in russia. the murder of famin, this tatar, is absolutely legitimate according to military rules, according to new military rules. if this had happened a year and a half ago, yes, the ukrainian special services blew up someone in st. petersburg, some pro- pusinist, it would have crossed the red line. in our case, no crossing of the red line occurred with either dugina or fomen. or when others are ours compatriots. i bow to him, in his person we have lost a great

on it, oh, we want it everywhere, everywhere, but look at this chair, the chair of metropolitan ignatiusought the greeks here, this is a particularly valuable item for the local community, unfortunately, yes, the metropolitan’s chair was also lost, it was in the funds, what other losses can we talk about, of course, that every the exhibit is valuable, but in our funds there were more than 60 thousand items, well, each item was valuable in its own way, because all these items were, well, local content, so for our region they were very important, almost everything, we had a very valuable a museum item, this is the lemos cross, wooden cross, decorated with enamel , was made in france, in the 13th century, no, there was a catholic church in our city at one time, we think that this item went to the museum... probably in the thirties, then there was a lot religious objects arrived at our museum when the churches were closing, including, probably, this cross, unfortunately, it really burned down, wooden... well, as you understand, there is nothing left here at all, i don’t know what they are he

machine gun on it, oh, we want it everywhere, everywhere, but look at this chair, chair metropolitan ignatiusght the greeks here - this is a particularly valuable item for the local community, unfortunately, yes, the metropolitan’s chair was also lost, it was in the funds, what other losses can we talk about, of course, objects, well, each object in its own way valuable, because all these items were, well, of regional content, so they were very important for our region , almost all of them, we had a very valuable museum item, this is the lemosh cross, a wooden cross decorated with pigweed, made in france in 13 century. no, we have there was a catholic church in the city at one time, we think that this item was put into the museum probably in the thirties, when there were a lot of religious items. churches, including , probably, this cross also arrived, unfortunately, it actually arrived at our museum, when they were closing it burned down, the wooden part of it burned down, but the metal plates remained, but unfortunately they completely lost their appearance, because the enamels were faded ,

but notably, david ignatius tried to jump in and get more detail about what those conversations looked like and the prime minister did not really bite on that question. but again, he did say that they are talking to iran and trying to get them to deescalate this situation. >> so general twitty, let's talk though about the impact these strikes and the loss of life by american servicemen from hostile fire could have in terms of the further escalation in the region. this is a red line that the administration probably didn't want to deal with. at what point will the u.s. respond and what type of response is necessary in a situation like this? >> well, first of all, let me just say obviously that our u.s. deterrence posture in the middle east is not working at this point. you know, here to date, we've had over 150 attacks on u.s. forces on our interests in iraq. we've also had the houthis down south in yemen that have attacked commercial assets and our u.s. troops that are trying to secure those commercial assets. so we're in a precarious situation at this point. of course, we do not want t

machine gun on it, oh, we want it everywhere, everywhere, look at the chair, the chair of metropolitan ignatiusthe greeks here, this is especially valuable for an item from the local community, unfortunately, yes , the metropolitan’s chair was also lost, it was in the funds, and what other losses can we talk about, of course, he values ​​​​every exhibit, but... more than 60 thousand items, well, each item is valuable in its own way , because all these items were, well, regional content, so for our region they were very important, almost all of them, we had a very valuable museum item, this is the limoges cross, a wooden cross decorated with enamel, made by limoges, in france in the 13th century , no, she worked in our city. in my time the catholic church was active, we think that this item went to the museum, probably in the thirties, then a lot of religious objects came to our museum when the churches were closed, including, probably, this cross, unfortunately, it really burned, the wooden part of it burned, but the metal plates remained, but unfortunately they completely lost their appearance

gun on it, oh, we want it everywhere, everywhere, and look at the chair, the chair of metropolitan ignatiusle for the local community item, unfortunately, yes, the metropolitan’s chair was also lost, it was in the funds, what other losses can we talk about, of course, that each exhibit has a price, but in our funds there were more than 60 thousand items. fish, animals, birds, well , as you understand, this is the department of nature, here we had stuffed animals, there’s nothing left at all, i don’t know what they were doing here, it’s like it’s not the highest place, that is, what’s the point of occupying a museum, i don’t know, the truth is, i don’t understand, a museum, even after the great patriotic war, a museum. preserved, but everything was melting here, i was generally in shock, now i’ve somehow gotten used to it, well, what can i do, but then i was simply horrified by what happened here, well, well, practically everything our history has been lost, and from the point of view of documents , there is a greek court... this is all part of russian, not ukrainian history, as you understa

the fundamental uon principles, and as for what the minister of foreign affairs of switzerland, ignatiusit seems to me that he means a completely different format. when he wants to somehow talk with russia, and here the question arises, and why do we need it? it's one thing when we talk about humanitarian issues, and geneva itself is such a cradle of international humanitarian law, that is, we have to talk about the exchange of prisoners, we have, once they talked about the grain turner, a complex story, complex, but critical... important for ukrainian business, that is, it is one side, but i do not see an opportunity in today's reality, and i did not see it in any sense , emotional, moral, political, whatever, from some side, from which dimension to start some conversations with today's russian regime about the status and so on and so on, for me it is a total mystery. the swiss have in mind, well let's hope they explain it soon, so it seems to me that there are two or even three different stories that the swiss have in mind, they really want to mediate again, will they be better mediato

problems with her, there were no problems with her, she’s what you need, “thank you, i appreciate it ignatiusiate it, here it is, a foreign land, we will make it ours , lord, what kind of bedlam, where are we going, look, hermler, quietly, your eager mother, what are you going to do with it, good afternoon, rent a room for a day, by don't hang around the city, what the hell he gave up to you, i don’t want to go and rip you off , i’ll come back when i resolve the issue, be careful, wait for me. dali gold will turn into money for our residency in europe and america. i am planning the operation myself. will you trust me with one such operation? am i alone? assembling a team is the same. i'll take the carpet. and popov. yes. wonderful. new collection, but is the ferrari legend still alive, now there are so many reasons to get rid of it? in no case, in no case, it has become even more effective, moreover, we now know that he is in capra, and he will create patronage for the best literary circles in europe, oh my god, wrangel? we won, we won, and now they will have to reckon with us, only ermler re

as for what the swiss minister of foreign affairs, ignatius oh, says, i think he means a completely different. when he wants to somehow talk with russia, the question arises, why do we need it. it's one thing when we speak about humanitarian issues, and precisely... geneva is such a cradle of international humanitarian law, that is, we have to talk about the exchange of prisoners, we have, they once talked about a grain turner, a complex story, complex, but critically important for ukrainian business, that is, it is one side, but i do not see any possibility in today's reality, and i did not see it in any emotional, moral, or whatever sense, from any side, from any dimension, to start some conversations with today's russian regime about the status and so on and so on, it's a total mystery to me what the swiss mean, well let's hope they explain it soon, because as far as i'm concerned there are two or even three different stories that the swiss mean. they really want to become mediators again, will they be better mediators than rordan, i will put three dots here, and a smiley, well, a smiley i

we are fortunate to be joined today by two leading journalists, david ignatius, "washington post" associate editor foreign affairs columnist and authorf novels. andrea mitchell, chief washington correspondent and chief foreign affairs correspondent for nbc news and host of m reports. mr. prime minister, there are no too better journalists and no more qualified journalist to join you in conversation. soha join us, and with that i wl turn over to you, david and andrea. >> thank you very much, fred. my thanks to the atlantic council. thank you, sheikh mohammed for coming and taking questions after long weekend of negotiations in paris. we know that you are in paris with the representatives from the united states, egypt and foe release of the hostages. but there's a plan, a framework that you will agree to this weekend to release the hostages in agreement with a phased pause in the fighting, women and children first, and to continue this in phases as you proceed with aid going in as well. this is being presented as a understand now to hamas. in the past they've insisted on an immediate permanen

"the washington post"'s david ignatius, a national treasure, thank you so much, sir.hello to your father for us. >> oh, yes. >> i will. 103 and going strong. watching "morning joe." >> good morning, sir. >> pleased to hear it. >> oh, my gosh, okay. >> good morning, sir. thank you, david. >>> john heilemann, we brought up afghanistan, which reminds us in american politics, if foreign policy goes well, if you manage regional crises in israel and ukraine, and you expand nato, you have historic advances against the russians and one-third of the russian army is destroyed -- and i could keep going on and on -- and you pivot to asia, and suddenly japan and korea are talking, philippines, et cetera, et cetera, you know where i'm going. americans are like, yeah, that's great. >> with all that -- >> with the decision joe biden made in afghanistan, which, of course, joe biden made that decision in afghanistan not '21 or '22. he made that decision in 2009. >> right. >> when he threw down his napkin and basically said, "you're a scam artist." talk about that. not much upside. ask

david ignatius, your thoughts?ere in washington saying that their governments are beginning to hedge against the possibility that donald trump could be reelected president. it's a very difficult and painful problem for them to think about. one thing i think people are beginning to focus on is how do you sustain ukraine, against the russian invasion, if the united states begins to pull back from the coalition of support? it's crucial for europe that vladimir putin not win this battle. europe's future over the next several decades will be different, entirely different, if putin rules on to victory, and i think it would put another invasion toward kyiv to try to take the whole country. so that's the first thing. i hear people talking more and more about how ukraine can defend what it has. the idea that ukraine is going to be able to expel the russians entirely from its borders looks much more difficult now than it did. but it can hold the territory that it has more decisively, to build the kind of defenses that russia

but they referred to evidence in reading the provisional sort of ignatius reading between the lines. this is disagree or cold is little has every digit has committed genocide. and these are the measures that the court for digital to take. all right, since we're talking about what the quote said, maybe it's a good time to recap and listening to what the i c. j president said yesterday in announcing the decision on 9 october 2023. no electricity, no food, no fuel. and that everything was closed on 12 october 2023. mister isaac hurts are presently it is an entire nation out there that is responsible. it is not true. this rhetoric about civilians not aware, not involved. it is absolutely not true. the court notes that the military operation being conducted by israel following the attack of 7 october 2023, has resulted in a large number of deaths and injuries, as well as massive destruction of homes, the forcible displacement of the vast majority of the population. and extensive damage to civilian infrastructure in the courts view, the aforementioned facts and circumstances are sufficient

if you happen to have read david ignatius' article yesterday in the "washington post," he outlines andhin the administration on how to tie a hostage deal and a cessation of hostilities into a longer cease-fire without any side having to concede that they agree to a cease-fire. that would be somehow linked to a post-war day after gaza. that, i think, is still far away. however, a hostage deal mediated by the qataris, egypt with american encouragement, seems to be resurrected after a few weeks of nothing going on there. >> having traveled with secretary blinken through the region, he was keeping them on parallel or different tracks, different time frames, hostage deal first, day after and normalization and all the rest. but then in davos, a number of the arab countries were pushing it should be linked. i want to ask you on friday, the tragedy of a 17-year-old american teenager born in louisiana, living in the west bank, his father is an american citizen, killed in the west bank. our colleague raf sanchez interviewed the father, showed the windshield of the car. family insists that he was

. >> you saw the interview was conducted along with my colleague, david ignatius, whom you know so well from the "washington post." i should add that i obtained several details. he said, the prime minister said, that the details i presented to him from what we have been reporting and the "new york times" and others have reported a good deal of this, that we were very well informed on that, and separately confirmed the details which are 60 days, a 60-day pause with no breaches. any breaches would have to be, you know, negotiated, but no breaches from either side, no bombardment from israel no rockets from hamas, focusing on the humanitarian peace. the release of civilian hostages with three for one palestinian prisoners being released for them, getting aid in, including, we believe, two field hospitals that have been positioned outside opt egyptian side of the rafah crossing. field hospitals from qatar that need to go into gaza to try to help there, and as well, the release of, as i say, all the civilians with the women coming first. after the 60 days, they would be negotiating the relea

david ignatius, your thoughts?uropean leaders, ambassadors here in washington just saying this their governments are beginning to hedge against the possibility that donald trump could be re-elected president. it's a very difficult and painful problem for them to think about. one thing i think people are beginning to focus on is how do you sustain ukraine against the russian invasion if the united states begins to pull back from the coalition of support in it's crucial for europe that vladimir putin not win this battle. europe's future over the next several decades will be different, entirely different if putin rolls onto victory and i think would mount another invasion toward kyiv to try to take the whole country. so that's the first thing. i hear people talking more and more about how ukraine can defend what it has, the idea that ukraine is going to be able to expel the russians entirely from its borh more difficult now than it did, but it can hold the territory that it has. more decisively, it can build the kind

"the washington post"'s david ignatius, eugene robinson, thank you, both.eutsch, thank you, as well. how do you think the biden clapback is going? >> i think biden is -- i mean, you know, i think he is doing really well. i mean, he's engaged. >> mm-hmm. >> he is on fire. listen, he's not running sprints. i mean, again, he's older. you see it when he walks out there. he's owning that, but he's all there. he's fired up. he's ready to go. i think -- i actually think he is liking this campaign a lot more than he was liking the last campaign. by the way, it is fascinating to me, there are still -- there are still intelligent people who think that there's some flea flicker coming and joe biden is not going to be the president and it is going to be -- >> i hear it every day. >> -- michelle obama. let me tell you something. i had the opportunity to speak to the president once or twice lately. let me tell you something, that guy is in it to win it. he's fired up. if anybody even suggests that he not run, it just -- there's no other word for it -- it pisses him off.

so there's ignatius donnelly in the midwest in the 18th nineties and i cannot tell you how much i would love to sit here and tell you about donnelly because it's information didn't know you wanted he actually writes a book about atlantis saying atlantis is real. he's the guy who the introduction to the the populist party platform in the 1890. it's actually brilliantly written was a novelist and he ends up so upset about the way politics are going. he writes a novel called caesar's column, which you can get on the internet for free. shockingly, it's not got a large following because caesar's is made up of all the skulls and bones of his enemies. i'm sorry. i didn't mean to lose it there, but i did. he very briefly had a following. and then, of course, in the 20th century we have huey long, for example, and we have father castle, both in the 1930s, who looked as if they were to be able to pull together these kinds of follow that trump did or has. and they fell for four different reasons. huey long because he was assassinated. father coughlin for other reasons, but this is the first time w

possibly the most original breakthrough in saint ignatius is spiritual exercises, is the guy who founded the jesuit order that i'm part, is what he calls the discernment of rather than, you know, trying reproduce everything he does. i just want to point out that what he did was to come up with a way getting a judgment on things that have happened to you and go, is this really a call from god or is this random junk? is this something i should be listening? or is this just that i had a bad pizza night? it's not always obvious, but there are ways that you can test these things because. these things from god have an internal logic just as science has an internal logic. if there's no internal logic, it's bad storytelling. if it's bad storytelling, it's bad. number three research. all your characters. most of us are not called to be missionary is to some far off land. the path god is through your neighbors. the people you already know, your opportunity be a saint is going to happen right in the corridors of wherever you are. that incidentally, the amelia earhart library. see if you already hav

david ignatius and admiral stavridis.iral, you've already said it is long past due we answer these questions. david, i'll start with you, though. um, i don't know what the options are here in terms of making sense of this. because "the new york times" piece, as incredible as the reporting was, leaves more questions than answers. it actually is worse than we could have ever imagined. as women were being raped, children were being forcibly removed from their homes or killed, as people were being killed en masse in the streets and at a concert, you had an army that had no clue what was going on or was caught in traffic. what are the options at this point in terms of an expla explanation? what could be the explanation for this, and is there a a nefarious one? >> "the times" reporting is haunting, people pleading, where is the idf? where is this army that israel has counted on through its history, that's been regarded as one of the finest small armies in the world? where is the idf? the image of soldiers being shot in their bu

. >> what it underlines is the fear that people like richard haass and david ignatius have been bringingh, america's back for now, but what happens when donald trump's president? people in davos have already decided trump is going to win, which is great news, because people in davos are always wrong. so great news the trump may not win, but don't tell that to our allies across the world, because right now, that is what they fear. >> but next, we'll talk to michigan governor gretchen whitmer about her plans to take the fight for reproductive rights nationwide. , even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. ask about nurtec odt. (fisher investments) it's easy to think that all money managers are pretty much the same, and stomach pain. but at fisher investments we're clearly different. (other money manager) different how? you sell high commission investment products, right? (fisher investments) nope. fisher avoids them. (other money manager) well, you must earn commissions on trades. (fisher investments) never at fisher investments. (other mone

. >> david ignatius, he's not saying that only donald trump should be able to use s.e.a.l. order the execution of nikki ali. haley. every president should have the power to use s.e.a.l. team six to order the execution of their political opponent and have immunity from it. again, think about the -- you know, it is easy for us to smirk at this, but, again, this is a guy in the past week who has made that argument, who has argued that lincoln should have negotiated with the south to keep slavery, and just ten other completely -- >> that's why he's -- >> also made the argument that the economy -- he was hoping the economy would crash. he was hoping the senior citizens would lose their 401(k)s. he was hoping that joblessness would skyrocket and we'd be in a great depression again because it'd help him get elected president of the united states. that was all said this past week. >> he's a man for whom the world really is a prop. it all is about him. he can't resist these moments in which he gets himself into trouble. i mean, that's why i think heading forward in the campaign thro

claims of -- david ignatius going on to say, whether or not iran is ordering the strikes, it is giving political support for these groups. -- to drive america from the region. iran's "death to america" obsession has been steaming since the revolution. but president biden can take steps to deter direct warfare. we will take your thoughts as far as potential reaction to iran and what the u.s. should do at this point. for democrats, it is (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. an independents, (202) 748-8002. and for active and former military to give your perspective on this, (202) 748-8003 is how you can do that. you can use that same number to text us your thoughts. the atlanta journal-constitution highlights those three that were killed in the drone attack. they announced this yesterday. specialist breonna moffett of savannah, sergeant william rivers of carrollton, and specialist kennedy sanders of w aycross. that is from the atlanta journal-constitution this morning. if you go over to the pages of the "financial times," it talks about some of the responses from the biden admini