igor ivanovic has for quite some time demonstrated a desire to get bashneft within rosneft. by the way, i don't know, after this scandal will he continue to have this desire or whether he's going to find another finance group and purchase it through this company. until recently, bashneft was in the ambit of medvedev. now, from all appearances, medvedev's political position has weakened. while vladimir yevtushenkov didn't realize this immediately, while igor ivanovic is a man of traditional views, which is if you can grab a piece, you've got to grab it. >> charlie: he's also the closest person to vladimir putin, is he not? >> well, he has always carried out the functions of a servant of his whose job is to take care of a whole bunch of tasks that putin didn't want to deal with himself. i think that maybe in a lesser role, but he still remains in this position. but you should note that he knows putin well and knows how to manipulate him well. i think that this effectiveness, this efficiency which consists of him coming up to putin with a question and just that time when putin