uh, we had a very interesting conversation with a real specialist in the space industry , igor marinine stories and i am anton schicklerov. the creative industry podcast on channel one is still hosted by elena hyper clip maker and producer and roman pockets, media manager and general director of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives, and our guest is a magnificent couple acting family egor beroev and ksenia alferova hello. hello, yes air a 15 minute discussion about titles. she, by the way, also terribly captures me, because, uh, in general, the definition of the creative industry has arisen. oh , three or four years ago. then no one knew anything about him at all, and to be honest, because. i said lena, i'm a media manager. i generally worked in the media, which has always considered itself a separate industry, generally speaking , just like in the general film industry and industry. in general, any other, and then in the end everything, in general, is not so. here, i 'm listening to you all of a sudden, why do i have everything words of your name? you just need to explain to