to break through our defenses, for more details about the situation at the front , see further ihor petrenkopolitical scientist, this time with us marathons, the only news p yuriy congratulations, congratulations, let's focus on the eastern direction, on bakhmut soledar, taking into account the fact that the events that are happening there, they seem to cause a certain discussion. yes, but you see , the discussion in the russian federation is not as sharp as we would like. why am i talking about the russian federation, because, actually, how much they put people there. and according to the approximate calculations of the armed forces of ukraine , they put as many people there as in the two chechen wars. they probably don’t want to talk about it. why are they silent? we understood, we did our job. our heroes did their job, they held soledar and retreated to new positions in a controlled manner. we are trying to protect our lives against the russians, but it seems like what they were trying to do happened, but here is silence silence on all fronts, well, look, it's not quite like that - they a

ihor petrenko, doctor of political sciences, we congratulate you, mr.ngratulate you, let's talk with you about nato and, in fact, about us, about our long journey to this organization. well, the secretary general of nato said very clearly these days that russia cannot be allowed to win in ukraine because it will not only be a tragedy for ukrainians, but a danger for other countries, we see that the understanding of this is finally complete. how do you think such statements bring our nato membership closer and when it can become a reality? on the one hand, what the west understands about ukraine's money is the loss of the west, despite the support, given the level of rhetoric, which is, accordingly, given the level of threats posed by the russian federation, that is, not only for ukraine, but actually for eastern european countries that are directly members of nato. this understanding is and indeed it has already been established, that is why they are saying that ukraine should be supported as long as necessary, the secretary general of nato in particula