and benefit in order to counter the heightened risk that fda had recognized -- justice gorsuch: but ihtour client took the position that there wasblicealth benefit here. mr. gannon: we sey hn't establishe the was a higher public health benefit with respect to flavors in ord to counterbalance the higher risk that flavors posed. they are absolutely linked, and what i'm saying -- justice gorsuch: ok, how do you deal with the chenery problem, then? nnonthe way i deal with the chenery problem is the swer gave to the chief justice, the way you phrase the first version of hs err is the way the court said, you apply harmless as u do in civil litigation. you are asking yourself whether -- justice gorsuch: i know what thatooks like. how do we reconcile that with chenery, which acknowledges there may be many good explanatio we can conjure them, and do the work, we are going to remand it. mr. gannon: that's right t d be completely different argument, a different stan ere ere may be some alternative form of reasoning. here we know whareasing was. the quess had the agency looked at the extra bit of i

iht raid will cost more than it makes.ounds like a serious story because they've got all the acronyms. but what this is about is the budget. the budget just won't go away, and it seems like cutting what the whole point was that anybody who was dying, that some of that money would be taken to the government, and then obviously, this is what it's all about, the farmers. this is actually going to cost a billion, which is insane. >> so this is the cost of enforcing it or they'll lose out on it because now farms aren't going to bother investing in their businesses anymore. >> they're going to hire like 100,000 less people. so is this just one of those unintended consequences? and they they it seems like they put it through for ideological reasons, maybe, i don't know, unintended consequences is a very poor excuse. >> excuse. >> i'm not showing you or presenting it as an excuse, but the whole point of being the chancellor is that you're supposed to analyse the second and third order effects of possible legislation. >> the fourth

the telegraph to start iht raid will cost more than it makes familiar story.mail why china spy must be named the sun banned old duke of york. the express 750,000 elderly people face being left in the cold. the metro official guide to a&e chaos. the i newspaper. eu tells starmer your brexit reset is doomed without a better offer on fish and under 30s and the josh, i can't believe that was the correct headline there. the this i'm going to read that does say fish doesn't it. >> yes. >> yes. >> that's not my eyes playing up but they're not what they used to be. but that is that is fish a better offer on fish. well that has long been a proverbial insistence anyway. josh the mail to kick us off with the china spy. >> it's nice to hear you're finally going through puberty. >> yeah, i've had a bad flu all week. actually. i've been been promising to cancel things. but you know what it's like when you're self—employed.7 it's a different calculation, isn't it.7 absolutely, yes. >> i'm glad you're here. and. yeah. so why china spy must be named. he has to be named. he's c

>> trying to persuade keir starmer and his government to back down on the iht farm bill.ause we've been stabbed in the back too much. we've finally had enough. >> this is. >> this is. >> this is not the end. there'll be plenty more we can, you know, we can do far more than what we did today. so. yeah. yeah. >> well, there you go. i mean, the message has been loud and clear here. i'm going to bring in a political figure that you might recognise. now it's richard tice, richard in the house of commons earlier today, whilst we had hundreds and hundreds of farmers, two in their horns, you know, making themselves heard. i mean, kemi badenoch went off on immigration, didn't she? it was unbelievable. >> it was utterly inept. >> it was utterly inept. >> for the second week running, she completely messed up 500 plus tractors here. the farm tax, the green tax. it's a catastrophe. and the clueless, useless kemi badenoch and her team went off on their weakest thing, which is immigration. this is the big thing. i mean, look at this over there. i invented that word storm again. what's g