is a critically acclaimed author from nigeria whose most recent best selling book is called dear ijeawelea ngozi (applause) welcome to the show. >> thanu. >> tre: i'm so excited to have you here because i have been a fan of your work for a long time. i've been a fan of your words r a long time. ve to ask you before we get into the book, as a person who is considered as one of the most fore most feminists of our time, why is it that so many people see the word feminist as a negative thing? >> because i think that feminism has long been associated with the most extreme ver it. so people think of femints as a crazy woman who hits men and doesn't shave. (laughter) right? and all of these sort of really crazy negativereotypes have been aeminism. so people don't want to associate with it. the to me why do you call yourself feminist, why don't you say you are a humanist or an equalist. well, that is what feminism is. >> trevor: right. >> feminism is about justice for everyone. but you have to name your oblem. and the problem is that women who have been excluded. so we need to call it what 2 is.

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