doing for example or what trump is doing now but but i stay within the bounds i'm not a radical ike noam chomsky or cornel west or chris hedges you know i'm not a radical like some of these conscientious objectors the few that there been in the volunteer force you know i was still believe that america is a force for good in the world and these folks are there and you know one of the things they'll throw at you all the time is that you're angry it's a very important the juror oh you're angry they're just angry they're there they're frustrated or they'll go to your character and say you didn't have the professional success you wanted and that's why you're speaking out is way more effective to have the polite liberal sort of a tack the n.c. war or the n.c. imperialism protest there then to put you know i'm on a hat wearing foot guy who's going to make you maybe look kind of rational they also couch necessity of war in foreign quote liberal values you know what some at the power call humanitarian intervention. and so you liberate the people of iraq george packer was selling this line or you liberate