it was an illegal unit then and it still is. it has been appealed, to remove the unit. >> maybe we can hear from the appellant council now. >> at our last hearing we talked about the permit holder being a brief feet -- repeat offender. i have here a definition of robert jack offered. i'm putting that on the overhead projector. he is the former tenant of 1285 40 fifth ave. he said, i make this declaration on my personal knowledge, and called as a witness i could competently testify in another hearing. he said that since february, 2003, i was a residential tenet at the 45th avenue apartment located in san francisco, the ground level unit. the landlord and manager was a purely the -- peter lead. i received an eviction notice in march saying that they intended to demolish the unit. after receiving the eviction notice, vacated the grounds in around may, 2010. they have been renting out its illegal unit for many years and have not removed it. but we also talked about this pattern and behavior of disobeying, or not paying attention to t

i live in a neighborhood where pretty much everyone has an illegal unit. it is a political third rail in san francisco, so i do think that we need to get a handle on this issue. i am not sure that through an abatement appeal that is the way to do it. but i do think that we need to, as a body, explorer -- explore what staff is recommending. i did your rosemary say a couple of things i would like to hear more about in terms of the kinds of permits you could get to allow you to start exploring how to fix some of these issues. i do trust rosemary and the guidance that the department can offer you. i do not think that it is something that -- we are not going to solve the issue of the illegal units during this appeal, but i do think that the department is here to help and guide you through our permitting process so that you can get this legal issue better resolved. >> can i just say one more thing? the ceiling height just got legalized. it was 7.5 feet, and maya understanding was at the beginning of the year, they lowered it to 7 feet, so now my regulation -- so

we are limited as to what we can do with illegal units. the option that you have is to legalize them or get rid of them. again, i just want to say that, you know, he said/she said in this scenario with the tenants, but i have never, as i sit here for almost 10 years -- i have never gotten calls from the tenants on one of these cases complaining so much. it bothers me especially that you have re-rented these units when there are violations active on them. i just feel like you are taking advantage of the situation, and i feel bad that you are in the situation, but, you know, we are here to make sure they units are safe and that people can live in them that are built correctly, and will not provide hazards to them. i think that we are limited as to what we can do as a commission or as an abatement appeals board. i am really upset about you re- renting them as early as spring of this year. it does not look to us like you are doing anything to fix the problem. >> what can i do? i cannot afford to lose a day of rent. i did disclose to the new pe

>> we are setting the property owner for illegal creation of two units -- we are setting -- we are sending -- we are citing the property report illegal creation of two units. >> the department of building inspection cannot find violations of the plan to cut. we're dealing with the fact that it has now been four years since the notice has been issued. we are getting a lot of complaints from occupancy in the building. the property owner has not even filed a permit within four years to explore whether anything can be legalized. what we have, though, is an apartment house without any kind of electrical building, plumbing,, and we have a significant amount of complaints coming in from occupants of the building. we had individuals who occupied a legal and illegal unit in this building, and they were very unhappy with the fact that this property owner was allowed to read constantly over and over these locations without the city doing anything about the legality of creating these units. i want to make sure you understand what was before me as a hearing officer. they considered it very serious. the

but a lot of these cases, especially illegal dwelling units, they seem to get caught up in the illegal enforcement. if this unit was not removed and it did not receive a final inspection, it should follow through with the enforcement action. i do not know how this can happen from this board to dbi, but it said -- which should certainly happen. >> please -- president garcia: please correct me if i'm -- >> please correct me if i'm wrong, it ensures your department's role in the taking of these measures. >> many times we will go out there and the kitchen will be gone, the stove will be gone, and then a week later, it is back again. for this case, if they do a final inspection and all of that is capped off and moved in, then we could do the final of bashan. --it should happen quicker. whenever there is a permit issued, and sometimes if there's a complaint, that will hold up the works because sometimes they have a valid permit. it is frustrating it does not happen quicker. i think that is what you're saying. >> ok, thank you. >> i have a question for the appellants attorney. have you had di

it sounds like an illegal unit already. it is not always a bad thing. i would not say that in many instances, legalizing -- "legal" is a strong term. in our business and sales business, we try to avoid that term. it has many implications. to say something illegal is -- to say something is legal or illegal has a lot of implications. we cannot really say. we can say it does permit it or not permit it. what is or is not authorized is a different statement. we have to be mindful. one thing i wanted to say about jeremy pose a question was, there are quite a few very good people in san francisco to go to if you want to legalize something that had been done without a permit in the past, or you want to get a permit for every model that was done or a bathroom that was added downstairs without a permit, and you feel like your uncle maybe was -- may have done it properly. oftentimes, it is no big deal. it is a good thing to do. there are many companies that specialize in doing just that. you can do that. it depends on your goal. if your goal is to sell the propert

we can agree to the 4.5 months on the illegal units issue. >> just to clarify what the decision is. has 30 days to fix it. to start, in order to do it properly, to hire a contractor within 30 days, or to vacate the unit, to not use them as rental units. because then nobody will be in a minute. we are deciding that they need to be evicted. it weighs heavily to put someone in a hazard. i also take it seriously that we are essentially ordering the landlord to at not rent this is your net to someone who is occupying it. i just want to clarify that. commissioner walker: i have sympathy for the tenant that was put in in march or april of this year while the notice of violations were active. and many others probably. at some point we have to deal with the help safety issues. i have the same complex around getting rid of units. but i have a bigger conflict with the potential for people being injured, because there is no compliance with the code. it is a hard situation. >> if she were to hire a contractor to go in and do minor investigation as to what may be back there, they might be able to

that we will give the appellate six months, 4.5 months to submit a permit for the illegal units. anyone want to take exception to the 4.5 months? >commissioner lee: i want to clarify that if things are being held up and planning, and you get the plan and they're getting back to you, then it is working through the process. they are slow, it is not the owners' fault. >> can we also include the issue of the fees. we did talk about it at the beginning of the meeting being attached to her good faith efforts. >> 25%. >> 25% of actual? ok. >> could we put an end time that we could modify but would like to have this done within a year? and if there is a delay in planning -- >> one year for it to be resolved, and to be about you -- as we go through the process, and would like to give the appellant one final say. >> i am going through extreme financial debacle to is right out. if you could give me a little more time before i have to start spending money on plants or anything like that. i am in danger of violating its if you put it to shore. if you just give me more time, i can comply. >> w

they should be listed as an illegal unit, and within five years they have to receive double property-tax this because they are not standard housing. within seven years the need to be taxed at 70% of property tax. >> the next speaker? it is the other microphone. >> good afternoon. i am c.w. johnson, working in the s.r.o. directly by talking with tenants and evaluating the living conditions. roaches and mice are only a few of the issues that they are facing. social services are not being allowed to do their job. they are neglected to the point of hospitalization. handrails and rams need to be addressed. seniors and disabled have lost funding and medical benefits. fas someone who will be becoming a senior himself, the lack of funding scares me. medical students could be part of the community outreach, and community social workers could come out to help explain this with the financial benefits as well as medicare. this could help people find cheaper medicine, and affordable food. thank you, and have a good afternoon. >> i am the tent organizer -- and i also go to the mission collaborative. i

they should be listed as an illegal unit, and within five years they have to receive double property-tax this because they are not standard housing. within seven years the need to be taxed at 70% of property tax. >> the next speaker? it is the other microphone. >> good afternoon. i am c.w. johnson, working in the s.r.o. directly by talking with tenants and evaluating the living conditions. roaches and mice are only a few of the issues that they are facing. social services

united states had you can i not be hopeful? from that line it says that the ruling says i'm not illegal. >> laura: if i'm you and i'm reading justice kennedy today and i heard president obama 12 days ago i'm not particularly worried about my status in the united states. jose, let's play devil's advocate here though there is a lot of people from nigeria in nigeria, pakistan, other countries who have been laboring for years and years to come here. they have been filing forms. they have been spending a lot of money. they don't have fraudulent social security numbers. they don't lie on their forms. like you did. how do you think they feel today? do you think they feel ghood they are still back in nigeria or pakistan. should everybody be allowed to come in or just the people here illegally. >> i'm so glad you asked that question. what we really need is a process. i'm not looking to bump the african-american nigeria. >> laura: have you bumped. someone could argue you have bumped them. >> again, if we create a process so that the 12 million undocumented americans could come forward and say here we are. give us a process. if you want me to

illegally are hopeful that they can city in the country they call home. he's more. >> reporter: three men in the united states illegally given hope. why a presidential policy shift. >> i went to high school. i went to college. i transfer to the university and graduated. >> i can't believe it. we have been working hard. >> and there is some hope we can live or dreams. >> reporter: the politics remaining a sensitive subject and with that at 8% nationwide. >> job security for myself and to my husband. >> what about the american students. they have gone through college and are probably living in the parent's basement because the jobs are not there. >> reporter: the stop gap measure exposing differing opinions on capitol hill. >> this is a historic moment in american history. >> and basically brought the executive branch in and said we're going to make policy ourselves. and this needs to be debated in congress and should be happen done through a legislative process and not by dictate from the president. >> reporter: if the president loses re-election, this measure can be overturned. >> and that does there a

based on our records, which show it only being illegal single- family dwelling with the residential units on the second floor. the zoning would allow two dwelling units, and actually in this case, they do not have any on-site parking, but given a planning code amendment that occurred almost one year ago, if they were just adding one dwelling unit, they would not need a parking space, so they would be compliant if they saw -- had a permit, and also for exposure, because they do have the windows on athens. the issues i do see would be with open space. there is a useful open space requirement. this is a very small lots, 25 feet by 50 feet, and it has little weary are, said they would need to seek a justified variance from the open space requirement of the planning code, or they would need to put a roof deck or some other form of open space, so that would be the issue there. the current fees, the base, is $859. it goes up depending on construction costs. it would be up to $2,000. i do want to highlight that for the board. like i said, all the evidence, all of the records that we have indicate

united states is getting ready to walk down those stairs. the new policy the administration has announced today opening up the door for maybe 800,000 young people, illegalnited states to have legal status so they can study other work. the chief can white house corresponde correspondent. let me start with you. i just want our viewers who are tuning in to fully appreciate what's going on. this has come as a big surprise to all of us. earlier this morning were we told that janet napolitano has a major announcement on immigration. she made that announcement giving legal status for all practical purposes to young people, illegal immigrants that have been here for five years. this is a dramatic shift in u.s. policy guidelines, jessica. >> it is. it will be received as welcome news by many latino advocates who have been pushing the immigration policy. to shift the policy to allow for some undocumented people to say here, at least in this case, some young adults will now have, in their view, some window of opportunity to stay in the country a bit longer. some, no doubt, will criticize the administration for not pushing for comprehensive immigration reform earli

think there's some truth to it i'd love to get your take on it that we don't have an illegal immigration problem in the united states or an illegal immigrant problem and you know states we have an illegal employer problem in the united states reagan stopped in one thousand nine hundred stopped in forcing the laws against the exploitation of people who are here without documentation and without work permits and nobody has really picked it up since the. thoughts you know the thing is that employers in particular industries especially agriculture for example domestic work construction they have an endless appetite for labor that is cheaper i'm not i'm not at all saying that you know all employers are out to exploit their workers employers are out to make a profit that is the purpose of business is to is to make profits and so if we have an immigration system that enables a whole very big portion of our population millions of people tens of millions of people to be easily to have their wages stolen to not be able to have their breaks to not have basic health and safety on the job and that situation is going to re

united states. >> you know, you talk about the magnet affect, but there is some statistics that jump out at me and one is if you look at 2005 to 2010, the number of mexicans illegally entering the united states was basically equal to the number of who were leaving. it seems to me that the -- that pattern changed in response maybe to the crash of the economy, to the stepped up border enforcement, deportations under an all time high under obama. you point to the fact we have 10, 12, 13, 14 million here already. when i read the statistics, i say we're doing a good job on enforcement now. the magnet affect doesn't exist the way it did a decade ago, so the issue becomes how do we deal with the people we have in here right now and it seems to me that's where congress and some kind of comprehensive reform is the solution. are you optimistic we're moving in that direction at all now? we had such little luck with that now for the past generation. >> well, i don't necessarily know that i agree with those statistics because when we talk about a reduction of the mexican illegal population in the united states, i don't know how we come up with the estimates that that number is

effective today, the government will no longer try to deport young illegal immigrants brought to the united states when they were under 16. as long as they've lived continuously in this country for the past five years. and, they are attending or have graduated from school or have been honorably discharged from the military. they also have to have a clean criminal record and cannot be seen as a to national security the new decorative applies to illegal immigrants not over 30. >>> youth coalition held a protest at president obama's oakland campaign headquarters this morning. they demonstrated their support for the new stance on the deportation of undocumented youth. this morning they called on the president to sign an executive order preventing any more deportations of illegal immigrants eligible for the dream action. they call their actions an undock -- >>> cal trains rolling smoothly after the fire yesterday that interrupted service between oakland and san francisco. there has been a delay for the federal and local arson investigators searching for the cause of this huge structure fire that

effective today, the government will no longer try to deport young illegal immigrants brought to the united states when they were under 16. as long as they've lived continuously in this country for the past five years. and, they are attending or have graduated from school or have been honorably discharged from the military. they also have to have a clean criminal record and cannot be seen as a to national security the new decorative applies to illegal immigrants not over 30. >>> youth coalition held a protest at president obama's oakland campaign headquarters this morning. they demonstrated their support for the new stance on the deportation of undocumented youth. this morning they called on the president to sign an executive order preventing any more deportations of illegal immigrants eligible for the dream action. they call their actions an undock -- >>> cal trains rolling smoothly after the fire yesterday that interrupted service between oakland and san francisco. there has been a delay for the federal and local arson investigators searching for the cause of this huge structure fire that

this new policy america will no longer deport some illegal immigrants and will instead grant them work permits. up to 800,000 folks who are in the united states illegally right now. we go to our chief white house correspondent ed henry who is at the white house awaiting the remarks as are we. >> reporter: illegal i am grants can get a two-year deferred action. you have to be un30 years old. you have to have arrived before you were 16 years old. so your parents brought you here illegally, the idea you did not come here knowingly as an illegal. that you have no criminal record. you earned a high school diploma and have either continued your education or joined the military. that is similar criteria to the so-called dream act that we heard about debated long and capitol hill still waiting for passage. the difference is there is no path to citizenship for these illegal immigrants unlike in the dream act. interesting the republican senator chuck grassley put out a blistering statement saying the president's move is an afront to the process of representative government by bypassing congress. it seemed like the president agreed just last year

and russia, today, denies united states claim that it is sending illegal weapons to the syrian regime. even accusing the united states of sending weapons to the syrian rebels. plus, lawyers for the undefeated boxer mayweather say the fighter should spend the rest of his jail sentence for beating his ex-girlfriend under house arrest. why in because he's getting out of shape. and he can't drink that water out of the tap. could hurt his career, you know? all ahead unless breaking news changes everything. this is "studio b." >> first from fox at 3:00, in new york city, the head of j.p. morgan chase bank apologized before congress today, after the company lost more than $2 billion on bad bets. the hearing started with, started out with a bang as protesters stormed the room. >> jamie dimon is a crook. $4 trillion in u.s. funds he took. this guy should be going to prison. >> predators on america. >>shepard: cops escorted the protesters out, and jamie dimon explained the massive loss was the result of failed strategy. and blamed trader whose did not understand the risk they were taking. >> th

. >> in a policy concerning young illegal immigrants in the united states. >> tiger woods tries to make it a father's day weekend to remember at the u.s. open. we show you why. >> we will check the seven-day in just a second. great shots of sky team 11 there. stay tuned. once we will be traveling in what are often called the back roads of america, but i think the tour will take us along what i call the backbone of america. >> and gop presidential hopeful mitt romney jumping on a bus to visit six key battleground states. this is his first traditional campaign trip to sway voters that live outside of american mainstream. there will be 14 rural towns and cities that he says are often overlooked. >> president obama announced a policy today concerning illegal immigrants saying the this is the right thing to do. work permits will be given to young immigrants if they meet certain standards to. for instance of they arrived at younger than 16, have lived here five consecutive years, younger than 30, graduated from high school, earned their ged, or served in the military. >> put yourself in their

starting january 1, 1808, it's illegal to bring a slave into the united states.slave trade probably brought 400,000 people to what becomes the united states. from the 1650s until 1808. by the way, that's a very small piece of the larger atlantic african slave trade. millions went to brazil, millions went to the caribbean, far fewer went to what becomes the united states. with the closing of the africa jan slave trade you have a trickle illegal slaving but it's really a trickle because the penalties are huge, and the complexities of the illegal trade really diminish greatly. there's much more of an illegal slave trade to cuba where spanish authorities simply turn a blind eye. once the african trade end the domestic trade picks up dramatically. millions of american slaves will move west. some of them will be brought by their masters. that is somebody in virginia is moving to alabama, he takes his slaves with him. often, though, somebody in virginia will simply say i have excess slave, i will sell those slaves to a slave trader, the slave trader will transport the s

illegal immigrants a break. look at this poll that was done in early may by the national journal. the question was asked, how should the uniteds in the u.s. who have broken no other laws? and you see allow some to stay in the u.s. if they've lived here for many years, 44%. that's basically what the president was saying today. if you don't have a criminal record, you're the children of illegal immigrants, you participate in a positive way in this society, we're not going to give you a path to citizenship, but we are going to allow you to work here. so he's consolidating the people who are already with him. >> we're going to be seeing the political fallout for a long time on this decision. >> we will. >> thanks, gloria. this was clearly a big announcement for the president. right in the middle of it all he got angry and a bit rattled. a reason a reporter in the rose garden interrupted the president shouting questions seeming to heckle him. listen to this. >> it is -- it is the right thing to do. excuse me, sir. it's not time for questions, sir. [ inaudible question ] not while i'm speaking. and the answer to your question, sir,