the states and the ftc are arguing, there was a pattern of these paid acquisitions combined so an illegalatanopolization over a course of several years. it is not just looking at independent mergers, but patterns of monopolization. facebook's reaction has been pretty muted. many knew this was coming, of course, but there is a feeling that they won't be broken up. that is too difficult to exert. when you talk to margaret vesti on europe, she is not saying break them up, but exerting fines. what do you think are the more likely business changes that will be forced to happen? breakup isink likely, thanks to european enforcement efforts that have largely failed. kudos to her for bringing this case against google, but none of her remedies have worked. there were behavioral remedies, and unfortunately, these tech companies are too hard to modify in a berlin -- behavioral way. structural reform is going to be what we ultimately need to see in these cases. joe: what do you mean by structural reform? conglomeratione of these different businesses, or something about how big tech giants are forced to d