>> woodruff: what do you take away from all this, ilya shapiro?i look at another couple of changes during the day's questioning with al franken about arbitration, and with ben sass, about the same top and i can it goes towards how some judges are more willing to bend the law to achieve a just result because otherwise they don't like the result they're getting. franken was talking about how arbitration provisions might go against the little guy, and ben sass said i might agree with you in the cases you're presenting so we, senators, congress, should change those laws. that's where the debate is. sometimes reaching a result that seems unjustice is often opportunity for congress to change it. >> the question is what the interpretation of the arbitration act is. the current supreme court, with a republican majority, has narrowed people's ability to get into court by reading a law that's been around since 1920s, more narrowly than the court used to. so i think it's important to understand that laws can be read in a lot of different ways. they're not al

ilya, start with you, how careful, really, do you think senator schumer's consideration was? >> yeah, i'm shocked, what all of the hearings that we had earlier this week, didn't persuade him how qualified judge gorsuch is. this is all a political play. and schumer is between a rock and a hard place. on the one hand if he fill burnters, even if he finds the votes and makes his members in states that trump won, walk the plank, mcconnell will get rid of the filibuster. his base is screaming murder and picketing outside his home in brooklyn. it's a no-win situation. >> jessica, you concur? >> well, yes, partly. loss because there's an issue regarding gorsuch being a little bit of the best of the worst of the list of candidates that donald trump has put forward. senator schumer also mentioned that the ideal situation, and what would be sort of more in line with the merritt garland type candidate, some one where the president speaks to democrats, speaks to republicans, and finds some one less of a political nominee. some one who is more based strictly on their judicial past, their

i have to be concerned about that. >> woodruff: i want to come right out of that to ilya shapiro and say, the democratic senator has made a point of noting that judge gore gore has worked in the past in republican political campaigns. does that have an effect, should it have any effect on how senators consider these nominees? >> i don't think that's unusual. justice kagan, for example, during her hearing, it came up how she worked from her college days all the way through the clinton white house in very political roles. she wrote an article in my former newspaper, the daily princetonian, about her experiences in a conditional race, and that's not disqualifying. in fact, it would be odd for someone who wants to be involved in public life to never have expressed any sort of political views or acted on some firmly held beliefs. >> drew: what. >> woodruff: what about that, pam carlin? the judge declined to say anything about what he remembered about the role of gay rights being on the ballot in that ohio campaign back in 2004. >> well, this is everybody who is nominated to the supreme co

this morning, ilya ponomarev was on his way to a meeting, he was going to meet another former russianember of parliament who has just been denounced as a trtor to rsia, who has just been threatened with criminal fraud charges, ilya ponomarev, the lone vote against russia taking crimea, he was due to meet this morning in kiev with denis voronenkov. and on his way to that meeting, denis voronenkov got murdered in the street. here's the "new york times" description of what happened. "for a contract murder, a common occurrence in former soviet countries usually executed with precision, for a contract murder this killing in kiev was unusually bloody and chaotic. the assassin opened fire with what police said was a tt pistol, a soviet era design and mr. voronenkov's bodyguard fired back. the two fired at least 20 shots a few yards apart, leaving blood and shell casings scattered around the sidewalk. the bodyguard was shot in the chest, the assassin was captured after sustaining a head wound but he died. and mr. voronenkov was shot four times and died at the scene. hours later the body of mr

ilya, i'm going to start with you. you've written positively about judge gorsuch.t do you like about him? >> i think he has the good parts of justice scalia, the dedication to the text and original meaning of the constitution, the interpreting statutes for what they mean, even if the results may not please him or someone else without the flourishes that put some people off of justice scalia. i think he's intellectually scholarly, has a ph.d. from oxford but very collegial. i think he'll be a breath of fresh air. >> i've been reading a lot of his opinions and it's funny, there's so many comparisons to scalia. as mr. t would say, you brought that on yourself and we'll have more of that in the show. he doesn't write like scalia. he writes very carefully. >> he's clear and careful and tries not to insult anybody. even in those forgettable affirm man affirmances, he takes care to name and describe the claims rather than just issuing some broiler plate because everyone before him deserves respect. >> paul? >> i certainly agree that he is a very nice guy, he's put togethe

i believe the cuts are around for ilya dollars. -- $4 billion.here are cuts with illinois port, which is very important security. just in general i'm a looking at afterschool programs, which is extremely important. when you think about the gun violence in parts of the chicago land area, some of those will be cut which are very important. we need to scale up those programs and not take them away wit. host: our guest is taking your calls. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. .ndependents --(202) 748-8002 our first call comes from illinois. democrats line, john, you're on with our guest representative robin kelly. caller: good morning. hello, represented kelly. -- representative kelly. i have a question related to the budget and health care. it's really about the health care reform. republicans have been pushing for the idea of selling across state lines to bring costs down, which would obviously help the budget. one thing i don't hear -- just feed the viewers out there -- for the viewers out there i want to split how curren