ilya pelikatsky. and i am a professional esportsman. hello friends. my name is konstantin sakhnov. i am a game producer, game developer and teacher at the higher school of economics. my name is dmitry, a simple russian surname, smith. i head the computer sports federation of russia , which is the president. and today. we wanted to talk about how gaming actually began, what was the chicken or the egg before , a computer or a console? that's what you got ahead, but my story is complicated, because i had a console. uh, because i have many, many relatives i lived in the same apartment i didn’t have my own computer and when i studied very, very well. my parents decided to arrange such a trimmer for me and gave it to me. i was the happiest child in that moment, so you played alone at first yes, then i started making friends thanks to the console. and what is your story konstantin i was very lucky 7 years. i was given for my birthday. dandy it was something before his first computer. of course, i waited a very long time, but thanks to dandy , i just stopped having friends because i sat at