ilya shapiro, can i ask you about how these cases come to be? i just want to know, are people who are religious, who own a business, can they sometimes be targeted to try to get some attention for things like this? >> absolutely. today's day and age of polarization and decline of social trust, this kind of it would fit into cancel culture if you are being boycotted and protested just because -- not because of anything you do with your business but people don't like the views that the owners might have. not in this case lorie smith doesn't want to do something for a same sex wedding but there are cases where donors to politically incorrect campaigns have been boycotted. frozeing out of bank accounts in canada. this is not the government persecuting them or forcing them to do one thing or another. this is private action. it is a troubling development for our society certainly and goes against the live and let live culture that i think is part of american bedrock principles. there is not much that the supreme court can do necessarily in this case u