in the end, one of the participants of this event, more precisely, the moderator ilya vinyavkin, by the way, it is also a mistake in the press that masha hessen was supposed to moderate this event, in fact , no, she should have been she, they should have been participants and wrote me this la- directly in private that they don't really feel terrible with anna nemzer because they don't consider themselves victims, they don't consider us cruel , what am i saying to you ilya well, thank you for writing, but i guess you should articulate it somehow publicly, otherwise, one will get the impression that the quoted words of hessian are spread to all participants well, but publicly for some reason i well, although i can’t say that i follow it, but i haven’t seen very many of our uh well, only literary people, well, in general, people who are interested in culture in one way or another are they engaged in? well, the atlantic recognized this material as quite manipulative, but the fortune-teller wrote a description with which i tend to agree that we have our own point of view from the americans,