uh, ilya zalivaka and sasha borisenko then. they were generally still students.l, we got to know him, we started to work somehow. it turned out that we are very different. very and almost any decision is made we have some kind of hours we yell at each other. uh, hoarseness sometimes uh, but at the same time, despite such a difference every time we run this forum, each of us remembers our main and in fact the only task for today is to build quantum computers there. well, before that we had other tasks. and this is the difference and at the same time very deep respect to each other. eh, i would even say love, they allow us to look at the problem from different angles and find some solution to it, so we started working, and it was very important, because you can really learn something only by doing real work. well, yes, we graduated from the institute there, they taught us there. everything is fine, but in order to do something real , you need to do and we did a year there from the fifteenth day to the seventeenth year, we did the simplest things, caught and he was