once hillary clinton came out with that ad linking him to imagerypremacists, the of these rallies, theythis is not fair. this is disgusting and we don't agree with that. they had a lot of surrogates do the same thing. fearful this is something that will resonate with voters. this idea that donald trump is a racist or condones a white supremacist him or racism. they are trying to appeal to black and hispanic voters. they are trying to create outrage, create some goodwill. so far they have not been successful courting them. -- full ofel full the idea of being painted in a racist way because it is going to further hamper their efforts to make inroads in those communities. john: one of the thing donald trump has done is calling hillary clinton a big it. does he knowll, what the word means? or is he being obtuse? >> i don't know. i can't tell you that he knows what the word means. i imagine he does. him if heooper asked met her policies were bigoted. he says he believes she is personally a big it and doesn't think that her policies have been helpful for african-americans. does he know the de