welcome back to the kaiser report imax nasser time now to turn to chris sentence he is the author of feeding the dragon this is a fascinating book that's caught the attention of social media and news media like chris welcome back so happy to be back always on it bank you are writing let's get into this discussion your book really catches a venturing inflection point when china kind of went from america's ally to our once questioning like what's going on with china and as we head into this 2020 presidential election more and more the rhetoric seems to be antagonistic toward china and i think your book does a good job in capturing that transition here now let me ask you about this 2020 alexion the moment in the vice presidential debates when china cut off the feet for mike pence during his answer relating to relations with china and then resumed when kamel harris was talking so what does that say to you about the 2 candidates and how to china views on chris. yeah what's it's sort of amazing that that aspect of of the story with the candidates the other night because i've seen that happ