at least most people think that this is the dying imbers of confederate resistance. and johnson is put -- he replaces hannibal hamlin of maine as lincoln's vice president because he was a senator from tennessee and he was such a staunch unionist that when his state secedes from the union, he refused to leave the senate. all southern congressmen left. johnson is the only one that didn't leave. he's unconditional unionist, he's staunch. he says, no, i'll stick with the union. when the union occupies tennessee, he becomes the war-time governor of tennessee. he is from non-slave holding origins, even though he owns slaves, a few slaves. but he is seen as somebody who is even more rags to riches than lincoln because he represents the poor rights, the non-slave holding whites of eastern tennessee, many of whom were staunch unionists in the time. we talked about plantation belt and non-plantation belt. here we haven john, right? he is a man seen as a staunch unionist. he says, i'll make treason odious. people think he's going to be hard on the southern secessionist. he says