[laughter] mean -- the thing i would -- imdb into history now, -- i am deep into history now, and there is a line. we had slavery, and during slavery, prisons were basically subsidizing the slavery system by making clothes for slaves, cheaper than the north could make them. it was very much tied into the system. slaveowners were learning from the prison system for a while. then we had prisoners doing what slaves used to do for a very long time. i am talking up to the 1970's, there were prisoners picking cotton in fields, when the rest of the company -- and it's not just the profit issue. before the civil war, most prisoners were white. immediately after, most were black, and they have been ever since. it has been a method of dealing with the huge gap of wealth in the country. 's social control, in some ways, you can't separate it. it is not the same, but it is part of the same trajectory. >> thanks for the question. next question? feel free to introduce yourself, if that's ok. >> hi, i'm eric. ok. is there any relationship between private prisons, the internal prison economy, and the pr