with imelda marcos, yeah. you didn't tell me that, clive.. go ahead, clivey. ruby said to me before we leave, "go and get some jewellery. i've gotta wear good jewellery because imelda marcos will clock the jewellery. " so we went to see theo fennell, who we knew, and he lent us £200,000 worth ofjewellery. so ruby sort of dripped into the flat, and in that first half hour, imelda clocked the jewellery and we had three or four days. and she sang feelings to us while we danced in herapartment. it wasn't just the jewellery, clivey. the original deal was for half—an—hour, and you ended up with four days? four days, and sitting on her lap and being fed chocolate cake and then showing us her stash of shoes in the attic. so that was really a lot of foreplay. and just gushing and loving her and never asking a question that would offend her. but never being a sycophant either. you know? she likes big stars, we tried to create this image that i was. and clivey put the hello magazine, i know you did, clive, in her garbage can with a picture of me on the

i've got to wear good jewellery because imelda marcos will clock the jewellery. " we went to see theoin the first half hour, imelda clocked the jewellery. she sang feelings to us while we danced around in her apartment. that was really a lot of foreplay. just gushing and loving her and never asking the question that would offend her. we tried to create the image... and clive put the hello magazine in her garbage can with a picture of me on the front. i know you did that, clive. that is too much of a coincidence. she picked it up and went oh, she is on the cover of hello! she thought i was just a journalist. from that moment, she took my hand, she took me to parliament, she covered me in herjewellery. clive, that was clever. ruby, i was wondering about those like yourself in front of the camera. we talked about changing trends and programmes being reinvented and coming back. how much are you conscious of that need to adapt as fashions change in terms of what you do in front of the camera? well, i wanted to produce after my show finish. i constantly like to reinvent. i wouldn't have min

many years, including on some of those interviews that she did with the likes of donald trump and imelda marcosion between our limbs. luckily, he's burnt. his face is like a beet, so i'm very turned off. clive, she's not in the same room as you, so what was ruby like to work with? erm... laughter she was... talk, clive. she was... she was always exciting to work with, and it was always thrilling. it was thrilling to work with her, and it's been even more thrilling to reunite after 20 years. yeah. well, you're both very welcome. layla smith is head of objective media group, part of the tv giant all3media and, before that, she was controller of entertainment at itv. i mean, layla, you're looking after a huge selection of programmes at 0bjective. what are your big hits at the moment? well, like what we're talking about, one of the big things, _