however, on the flip side there's voices for vaccines parenting into open up for imization, and lisa, look, they are also using the syringe with their own facts and there's andy anti-vaccination movement, they have their stats. so everyone has the numbers and the stats. huge people in the middle that just want do get the information. >> our first guest joining us from sacramento. he is the chief of medial rettich infectiouses thes. tock otor, we have had people traveling to our country, from india, and oh nations around the globe that still have a problem with measles. for decades. and we haven't seen this kind of spike that we have seen in the last couple of years. s there something particularly? i think disrelated do people that choose not have do their children immunized. you get cheese pockets of very high susceptible population, where you get ten, 20, even up do 50% of parent whose are choosing not do vaccinate their children, and it is these pockets that can result in transmission. >> so emily, you have three kids and you were really on the fence about whether or not do have the