and the quality of recruits has been immediamediocre at best. i'm with charlie. recruit independent candidates. >> if you're an accomplished person, successful in life in whatever way running as an independent candidate is like jumping out of a plane and not being really sure that the parachute works. there is no support mechanism. it would take an enormous leap of faith and a personal checkbook that could pick up the tab for the race. but we have plenty of people that could do that. i'd life to see that happen. >> that's what we know. self identification with the two parties, that's what you were talking about the poll call. pollsters have noted raw self identification with the collective two parties is below 50% three polls in a row for us. that is people saying i don't want to be considered a member of either party. doesn't mean ideologically they're not liberal or conservative, but they're not comfortable with identifying with either party right now because they're kind of embarrassed. the public is screaming for this. they're begging for independent new peop