student himself for mr felix and bowler and mr keith best former chief executive of the immigration advisory service gentlemen thanks both for coming on today this is obviously an issue which is raised controversy emotions on both sides the question here keith perhaps if i can start with you on this i mean the high court said the student was entitle to his thoughts i mean isn't this in gauging a form of censorship by not a blurring of somebody to express or verbalize those thoughts on a private social media page. well the history of libel and defamation is quite a long and changing one first of all freedom of speech is one of the most essential attributes of a liberal society and it should be preserved wherever possible but even you know article ten of the european convention on human. rights recognizes that freedom of speech has to be old where it can cause real damage to the reputation or lives of others my view as a lawyer is that you should stop short of denying what the lorries so if the law says that people are entitled if they're gay to be married then that should be carried out even if peopl