off, and the locally, and my day job is helping to supervise immigration attorneys at the immigration clinic at davis. i see a range of clients that have pressing needs. while we all hope and wish for compehensive immigration reform, i have got to tell you from what i've heard the last several months, the question we all have to ask ourselves is at what price? if we get an immigration bill introduced that a serious blow for the spring, i'll tell you right now the provisions i will not be happy with. i know they're going to be in there. you should be aware of these provisions. first of all, the price that the estimated 10 million to 12 million undocumented immigrants in the country may be to pay is they may all be forced to plead guilty to a crime before they can file their application. that is before they actually have to pay a fine that is attached. right now what is seriously being discussed is what level of crime should they have to plead guilty to before they apply for legalization. should it be a misdemeanor or in a fraction? that is going on right now. the second thing is an attack on

that actually one of the most important forms of reach would be through immigrant doctors and communities, three medical clinics and members of the community. reach out to yank parents. >> are public health challenges right now and seeing some very preventable diseases. diabetes the obesity epidemic. things that very aggressive public-health action could protect against, but at the same time really come into conflict with our civil liberties. you know, we tried to have calorie labeling and our menus in philadelphia. we are announced as food nazis. i am wondering, i am excited about your book. of going to get a couple of copies signed in a minute. i am wondering if from a historical perspective if you can give us any sort of thought of how we in public health and more productively reach out to people when we are really dealing with an issue where individual choice comes into conflict with what is going to be healthiest in the long term. >> that is the challenge. i think that it has to occur in everyday practice some, bought through attempting to seize the town square. make this a project for public education. i

immigrant doctors. in this communities through medical clinics that serve in their communities. would be a very important way to reach out to parents. >> this should be our last question although i would be happy -- >> i have to stand on my toes to reach the microphone. i'm both a union organizer and a public health master student at jefferson. so i have kind of a weird perspective. but thank you so much for the informative lecture. i think it's important to remember where we came from and what we have overcome, and i find myself looking at our public health challenges right now and seeing some very preventable diseases. diabetes, all the of the seat epidemic, and things that very aggressive public health action to protect against. but at the same time really come into conflict with our civil liberties. we try to have calories lately honor menus in philadelphia and we are denounced as food not the. i'm wondering, i'm really excited about your book and get a couple of copies signed imminent, but i'm wondering if from historical perspective if you can use any sort of thoughts on h

give you some ideas that get at the immigration issue and the potential and the need for reform in a way that is a little bit less traditional in that it's almost clinical. i'm going to try to present some economic arguments. i'm going to present some kind of structural social arguments and i'm going to worry you a little because to have the economist law professor opening with an analogy to a science fiction film. don't worry, it works out ok. some may have not seen this film. it's one of my favorites. it starred uma thurman and jude law. it's a near future in which individuals are gentically engineered and it's the story of two brothers. one is enneared to be terrific and great and wonderful and one is not. it's a story about their efforts to succeed. there is one part of the story that resonates so well and is a strong metaphor for immigration and it's the following -- they would have a contest as adolescents and as adults they would swim out in the ocean, and the first one to turn back would lose. it was a simple contest. and in theory, in every possible way in theory, the engineered brother should have won. he was stronger, bigger, better, more fit

i think the evidence suggests that too many immigrants are nonparticipants even when naturalized. they don't tend to have very high levels of clinicalowledge or very high levels of -- they are nietzsche the country and they are learning their oaths. obviously they are the exception. just a social science general asian. i think immigration politics, the discussion that we could have in this forum or elsewhere about whether we should have a more generous and open policy or close down the border certainly is something that natives again again -- with some intensity. >> do you feel as gregory does that whites are becoming an aggrieved minority? >> i think that is very interesting point and it is certainly worth monitoring and it is worth further study. i certainly think that there are quite a few whites out there i think as manifest in certain elements of the tea party movement that are concerned about immigration. the tea party groups particularly in the southwest i think. i don't think all of the tea party is by any means but i think there are elements of it that are concerned about those issues and the idea that you know, they could

clinical studies. dominique is studying for the mcat and plans to apply to medical school when her immigration status is resolved. dominique told me -- and i quote -- "i dream of being a doctor and of giving back to a country that has given so much to me." so would america be better off if tapiya and dominique are deported to m malawi or if they are continued to stay in the united states, realizing their dreams and making us a better nation? let me introduce to you another dreamer. this is jose migana. a big smile on his face. jose brought to the united states from mexico when he was two years old. he grew up in arizona. he graduated as the valedictorian of his high school class. he enrolled in arizona state university, became the first member of his family to attend college. but then arizona passed a law prohibiting public universities from giving financial aid or in-state tuition rates to undocumented students. hundreds of students were forced to drop out of school. but jose persevered. he found his calling on the speech and debate team where he ranked fifth in the nation. and in 2008, jose migana gra