off, and the locally, and my day job is helping to supervise immigration attorneys at the immigration clinic at davis. i see a range of clients that have pressing needs. while we all hope and wish for compehensive immigration reform, i have got to tell you from what i've heard the last several months, the question we all have to ask ourselves is at what price? if we get an immigration bill introduced that a serious blow for the spring, i'll tell you right now the provisions i will not be happy with. i know they're going to be in there. you should be aware of these provisions. first of all, the price that the estimated 10 million to 12 million undocumented immigrants in the country may be to pay is they may all be forced to plead guilty to a crime before they can file their application. that is before they actually have to pay a fine that is attached. right now what is seriously being discussed is what level of crime should they have to plead guilty to before they apply for legalization. should it be a misdemeanor or in a fraction? that is going on right now. the second thing is an attack on

immigrant workers. we hold five weekly worker rights clinics, provide legal advice and referrals to over 2,3500 workers a year. in addition we have several telephone hot lines. for example, work and family hotline already so far in 2011 we have received over 1,000 calls. we see widespread abuse in low wage and immigrant-dominated industries, like rampant wage theft in industries we serve, the current loophole allows employers to steal employee benefits. we have heard stories from workers who are impacted by the loophole. workers who don't know they have these benefits and incentive for employees to hide these benefits from the employees. we heard from workers prevented from using accounts and can't get the most basic and routine medical services. employers are incentivized to limit employee access to the funds. it's particularly pernicious among the low wage, often nonenglish speaking workers we serve. the employment law center officially endorsed the campos's amendment and to close the loophole because it's a straightforward and common sense approach to remove that powerful financial incentive to prot

immigrants can get free medical care. residents don't need to prove their legal status to get treatment at public health clinics and hospitalsssachusetts. now emergency rooms can't turn down anybody. so letting undocumented immigrants get preventive care is meant to drive down costs in the long run. but romney doesn't want to take credit for that solution. his spokeswoman says, quote, if illegal immigrants are getting access to additional health care in massachusetts, it's deval pa. poor willard used to be so proud of what he accomplished. >> i like what we did. it's a good model for other states. my collaborator and friend, senator ted kennedy. in my view, it's the right thing to do. >> it is the right thing to do and the popular thing, too. 63% of the people in massachusetts support it, five years after it was signed. don't worry, willard. we won't tell any republican primary voters, nice try, but we gotcha. [ junior ] i played professional basketball for 12 years. today i own 165 wendy's restaurants. and i get my financing from ge capital. but i also get stuff that goes way beyond banking. we not only lend people money, w

give you some ideas that get at the immigration issue and the potential and the need for reform in a way that is a little bit less traditional in that it's almost clinical. i'm going to try to present some economic arguments. i'm going to present some kind of structural social arguments and i'm going to worry you a little because to have the economist law professor opening with an analogy to a science fiction film. don't worry, it works out ok. some may have not seen this film. it's one of my favorites. it starred uma thurman and jude law. it's a near future in which individuals are gentically engineered and it's the story of two brothers. one is enneared to be terrific and great and wonderful and one is not. it's a story about their efforts to succeed. there is one part of the story that resonates so well and is a strong metaphor for immigration and it's the following -- they would have a contest as adolescents and as adults they would swim out in the ocean, and the first one to turn back would lose. it was a simple contest. and in theory, in every possible way in theory, the engineered brother should have won. he was stronger, bigger, better, more fit

clinic visits and hospital visits were paid for through this program. but the problem is we don't know how many of them were illegal immigrants because massachusetts doesn'tord that data. so if you're going to use this as an argument to say, well, the federal law says that we have to cover them, this program is us trying to reduce the cost, then you would think that the state would keep track of the number of illegal immigrants whose visits have been paid with this program. so we don't know how many. so i don't know how anyone can really use that argument to sort of boost their point here. >> susan? >> well, because the point is that you're accusing governor romney of including them and i'm saying that it's the federal government that forced the governor to cover that in any legislation as has been the case in states throughout this country and in fact under deval patrick, the current sitting governor, those ramifications and policy ramifications have only increased towards encouraging illegal immigrants to take that kind of action. so those are very valid points. that was not the reality set forth by governor romney in any way, shape or form. >> we'll se