they produce, they buy, they shop, they work, we benefit from immigratn. criminals ho destructive and that's why these people did their time. many of them, by the way, had traffic violations and eric, to say you want to round them up and deport them i don't think is just totalitarian but also bad for the bottom line that we all want to see go up. >> they're here illegally. >> you suggest we keep these hardened criminals, violent offenders, let them walk the street, it's okay and hire them. >> well, they did their time. >> did they? where? i'm still looking for where they did their time. >> well, did they not serve in jail? >> i don't know. >> well, that's what it says. >> so we should take their word for it. >> let me bring michelle in here. are you buying this? >> this is putting the american people at risk. these people came illegally. >> for traffic violations. >> not all of them are traffic violations. they're people who kidnapped, murdered. >> 33,000 of them were traffic violations. >> they committed a crime and need to government we already have a bl