-- on immunized children in the united states and illustrates the problem right on immunized populations. measles is one of the very few infectious diseases that literally flies through the air. it is completely predictable that such outbreaks immunization rates staying where they are or get worse. while most parents do choose to vaccinate their children, there are pockets of on immunized children all over the country. in san diego, we have 1500 kindergarten students that are not immunized. that number has been increasing steadily. the current measles outbreak reminds us of an important fact that they are a shared public health problem. when one person is infected, people around them and people they do not even know become infected. the decision of a parent to leave their children unimmunized, however well-meaning, is a decision that affects us all. although our public health community has done an excellent job controlling the current measles outbreak, too many people make a decision not to and will make it last longer. many parents are choosing to not have their children immunized as th

herd immunity. when more than nine out of 10 people are vaccinated so they don't get sick. that keeps the babies from getting sick. that herd immunity is incredibly important. measles can cause life-threatening complications in children. eyewitnesses will talk about what is causing this outbreak and why some parents are choosing not to vaccinate their children. measles is only one example. this hearing which was planned before the measles outbreak reminds us of the importance of vaccines. an analysis of immunization rates across 13 states -- small private academies in new york city to large public elementary schools outside of boston and native american reservation schools in idaho where vaccination rates have dropped -- sometimes under 50%. california is one of the 20 states that allows parents to claim personal belief exemptions. some areas of los angeles, 60% of parents have filed a personal belief exemption and those elementary schools vaccination rates are as low as those in chad or south sudan

as immunization rates drop, herd immunity starts to breakdown. this herd immunity is the only thing protecting my two young children from being exposed to measles or whatever the next outbreak is. i urge a strong unified, bipartisan voice supporting the scientific evidence that vaccines are safe and save lives. we need a consistent message from the presidency to capitol hill to our local state legislators, schools and even day cares. i urge congress to take actions supporting programs and infrastructure already in place to get these vaccines to those that need them most and contain outbreaks such as we are seeing today. i will care for my family. i will work to promote health among my patients and through partnership with organizations like every child by two and arizona partnership for immunization, i will advocate for timely vaccinations for children. thank you for your commitment to this issue. we can stop the spread of vaccine preventable diseases and protect the innocent. we can protect our children. we can protect my children. thank you. >>

herd immunity. when more than nine out of 10 people are vaccinated so they don't get sick. that keeps the babies from getting sick. that herd immunity is incredibly important. measles can cause life-threatening cup locations in children. -- complications in children. eyewitnesses will talk about what is causing this outbreak and why some parents are choosing not to vaccinate their children. measles is only one example. this hearing which was planned before the measles outbreak reminds us of the importance of vaccines. an analysis of human's asian rates across 13 states -- immunization rates across 13 states -- small private academies in new york city to large public elementary schools outside of boston and native american reservation schools in idaho where vaccination rates have dropped -- sometimes under 50%. california is one of the 20 states that allows parents to claim personal belief exemptions. some areas of los angeles, 60% of parents have filed a personal belief exemption and those elementar

he's also the medical director at san diego immunization partnership and involved in a variety of immunization practices projects. dr. tim jacks is a pediatrician and the father of two children who recently were exposed to measles in arizona. he's an every child by two immunization champion, every child by two is a nonprofit dedicated to increasing vaccination rates among children. his wife is in arizona caring for their two children. i'm grateful he could be here to tell their story. dr. moore, let's begin with you, and if the three of you could summarize your comments in five minutes, we'd appreciate it, and then the senators will continue questioning. >> thank you chairman alexander and senator murray, for holding this hearing on the benefits of immunization and for inviting me here to testify about public health perspective on vaccine-preventable disease. most people are unaware that even in a state with a strong history of immunization, a single case of measles requires a major public health response. i'd like to begin by acknowledging governor bill haslam and first lady chrissy haslam fo

that is the constep of the immunity. based on science, which is logically explained, and reliable immunization. if we don't get the number of immunization up, the risk is higher. we are at that point now where everybody is at risk. >> what are you asking the school system in marin to do. what can they do to accommodate your forwards and understand your case? >> so we have asked the school to help us solve for heard immunity. what can we do as a community to get more people to immunize their children. we know that it goes beyond the school. it's in the libraries, the grocery scores, planes, everywhere. we suggested if they banned children who are not immunized by reason of personal choice, not medical, personal choice. if those students were banned from school, we believe more parents would immunize their children. and then the hurt immunity level would rise. question. >> would that involve changing the law in california. the way it's constituted, it's my understanding that it's six to get an exemption. >> so. first of al

problem is that our immune sawtion rates are down -- immunization rates are down. for the 2013-2014 school year, the percentage of youngsters that have received vaccinations is now below 90. that's not good. for the record, i had measles. and chickenpox and mumps and everything else that people had back in the day. but what i'm asking, if i can get to it here very quickly, if immunization rates continue to decline, what advice do you give to these youngsters' parents who have to rely on others in their community to choose vaccination to help protect their own? >> the lower the rates are the more your children are at risk. so you want to be making sure your own children are vaccinated, but also it's important to have those around them vaccinated. some kids can't get vaccines because they have leukemia, for instance they can't get live viral vaccines, so our best protection is that community-level of vaccination. >> well, you highlight the three reasons parents don't vaccinate, the fear of side effects, religious or philosophical okays, and there's a whole bunch of p

immune-based therapies.t year, on the cover of one of the prestigious science magazines, immunotherapy is the fourth partner in how we treat cancer. besides surgery and radiation and chemotherapy, it is using the immune system to help in the fight. and i think all of that has been derived from basic research. i will tell patients that there is no therapy we were using that was not derived from some idea in a laboratory, working late into the night. so the other challenge i think is maintaining a certain level of funding so all ideas get a chance to help someone. >> support of the challenges -- so part of the challenge is finding funding for someone working late into the night. >> that is correct. i think because we have been doing this for a long enough time, we are always sometimes painfully aware of what we can do now, had we known it then. who would be with us today. there is a certain tyranny of time that comes with our work. why we want to move faster. as robert was saying, one of the things we pride ou

for herd immunity to work. but rates are below 60% in some companies. kids parents and politics, and an outbreak that began at disneyland, of all places. mary snow has the story. >> the debate over vaccines to a new level. the initial cluster in december has spread to more than 100 cases around the country. with doctors blaming the resurgence of the disease on parents refusing to vaccinate their kids. while the number may seem small the fact that measles ma has has even resurfaced has led to a debate across the country. measles was disappeared in the country in the 2000s. >> deadly disease in its track the main name measles vac seen. >> in her home state of new jersey just like most of the country she can cite a religious exemption. >> i think we're born with an immune system. it's designed to function and to protect us and we need to trust that. i know so many parents who have children who may have been vaccine injured are vaccine injured and they decided with future children look i put my trust in man in a pr

you build an immune bank.o request an individual measles or individual mumps is not something you need to do because it is not made anymore. she also commented about orders. people coming here from other countries. as we look at our immunization rate for mmr, there are 113 countries who have higher him and than we do. many countries on our borders have much more in -- have much more robust immunization plans. people who are immigrating here, who are refugees, they have very high immunization rates. i do not think that is part of the equation we are seeing in our california to u.s. outbreak now. host: we have divided the lines to those who vaccine and those who do not. bonnie described yourself as someone who does not vaccinate. good morning. caller: i am amazed that there is no primary solve -- pri maerosol. there is for metalhead -- formaldehyde, msg. this screws up the immune system. we have 103 kids who have come up with measles out of 300 40 million people. all of a sudden, it is an epidemic. if you read t

>> because the cancers of the immune system are particularly sensitive to this immune 0 logic effect that comes from the donor, on the other hand what we have done is taken the analogy of that immune system effect on the cancer and that is in part what led to the car t-cells, let's make the immune system only recognize the cancer as opposed to maybe the whole body j. >> rose: right. so developing engineered t-cells that react against leukemia, brain cancer, breast cancer, derived from the observations that first the immune system can in fact react against and cure a cancer and what we want to do is make that as available as we can to everyone, and in some situations make a transplant unnecessary. >> rose: there is also this idea of alternative therapies, which is a broad category. but i have had conversations and sometimes it brings up the name of steve jobs, because isaacson's book, a program i did with david kelley, at stanford, who also had cancer and who told me that steve told him when he, david developed cancer, go get the toughest, strongest treatment you can get. don't, don't

and the importance of immunization in the community and the removal of barriers to immunization. i'll give a example, there is a program called vaccines for children that provides free vaccines to clinics that serve uninsured and med ical children and this has been-this program has been around for quite a while. it is a federal pramp administered through the state and we work to enroll community clinics and providers and all the health networks are vfc clinics and this is key increasing immunization rates among low income children. another example is the collaboration of the school district is push measle vaccination into the scol so they can be delivered are the children are. i think things like that can be constructive to try to eliminate as many barriers as possible and i think dialogue within the individual patient provider relationship is also really key. >> other questions? >> questions for-- >> i do want to thank doctor hoover for oo excellent update on the communicable diseases and encourage the director to have these on a regular basis for what is the current item. it is

that opting out of immunization. we have indications that some of those unvaccinated microcommunities may be getting larger. our immunization system has risen to challenges in the past and cdc will work with partners to keep measles from regaining a foothold in our country again. working together we can keep these numbers down keep measles from returning and threatening the health of our communities, and sustained the enormous health and societal benefits that our immunization partnership has achieved. thank you. >> thanks, dr. schuchat. about 10 years ago senator frist our majority leader and also physician led a group of us in south african and there we found maybe it was 12 years ago, found the president of south africa had rejected the signs on hiv/aids decided it wasn't the virus, caused by a virus and that figure was elimination of poverty, setting back south africa for years in terms of its ability to deal with hiv/aids. now today there is information that's on the internet, which is where we were told the pre

, when you say heard immunity, explain what you mean. >> i hope dr.aul offit will talk more about this in detail, but basically, if we are a certain number of people immunized in the school, those people form kind of a ring around the few that aren't immunized and prevent it from reaching them. if you have enough people immunized, even if one person infected comes in at the school, the disease won't spread. >> devos is suggested that parents use not adventure unvaccinated are almost always negligent under the law. do you think there should be the goal consequences for parents who choose not to have the children vaccinated? >> yes, i do. the point of view is less on those who don't get vaccinated. if one parent chooses to reject expert opinion, to choose for their own child, the bigger risk, the risk of not vaccinating the smaller risk of vaccinating, and something happens that harms another family i think it is unfair to make the other family pay for the cost of the first family's decision. again, think about the situation. a child is left unvaccinate

they avoid your immune system and then they stay. are mature enough, the best and attacked your blood cells and destroy your blood cells until you become very sick and your body responds with a high fever. the high fever is a good sign that you're immune system has kicked in and tried to reduce the number of terrorist sites so that you no longer seek them out for the systems. they become distinct and spun swim to the surface of the cells and e-mails for chemical. they pick up on the chemical and they drink these adult versions and they are shape shifters. then they get into the mosquito and they use and create a genetically unique set of offspring that are stick shaped and then the cycle continues. >> how did you get interested in the topic? >> i am a political reporter and i have covered congress for quite a while and i was interested in doing something else. i wanted to go back to science writing because i'd been a reporter for the philadelphia inquirer and to do that, i decided that i wanted to research a scientist because you can

is it mine because my child can't be immunized for medical reasons? or is it the person who is defying science and has this fear that something bad is going to happen if they immunize their child. and my opinion is it's that person that can keep their child home. >> what kind of reaction are you getting to this proposal in marin county? >> we are getting overwhelming support. but not just overwhelming support, our news story has actually made people vaccinate their children. the superintendent of schools today called me and said carl, i've got to tell you something, our numbers are down almost 50, 60, 70%. of all the people we had on record that were not immunized, even some of the personal belief exemption exemptions, a lot of them have gone out and immunized. >> carl thank you very much for joining us tonight. good luck with your son. >>> joining me now is former vermont governor dr. howard dean. dr. dean it has been fascinating to watch the way this conversation has gone politically over the last couple of days. let's listen to what rand paul start

these young children are developing their immune systems and their immune systems has to determine what dangerous to them or not. these innocuous, non-harmful bacteria exposed to by dish washing in the study are incorporated into your immune system traits we decide we'll not attack these things. so i think it makes sense but i think that, you know it wasn't cause an effect. it is an association that really will spurn more questions and more research. melissa: dirty, careless moms are better. i love it. just kidding. dr. campbell, thank you so much. i couldn't resist. i'm just a troublemaker at heart but everyone knows that. >>> developing story now. major derailment in southern california injuring at least 30 people. this is serious story. metrolink commuter train headed to los angeles colliding with a produce truck. this is 5:45 this morning pacific time. the truck is said to be on track to ventura county northwest of l.a. we'll keep watching this. look at those pictures. >>> they sure pick the their moments the government days away from shutting down the department that operates borde

why grant her immunity?means if she were to go on stand and say, yeah, i lied yeah i got rid of the gun, she would not be prosecuted for that. she's been given immunity. however, why the prosecution is giving her immunity is because when she gets on that stand, she cannot claim the fifth amendment right to self-protection against incrimination. she either has to testify and answer the questions directly that she's being asked or she will be held in contempt and she will be thrown in jail. she's not testifying for the prosecution, guys. she will be a hostile witness. this lady has been sitting with aaron hernandez's family. she mouths "i love you" when he comes into the courtroom. she is on his side. she will be hostile. they will treat her as a hostile witness and she will now be compelled to testify. >> but it will still be just a dramatic moment here to see her on the stand because we're talking about the family dynamic. her sister was the girlfriend of odin lloyd and has an entirely different take. >> yea

that 95 to 98% of you are immuned. most likely because you already had the measles before the vaccines were made available. but they would say some of the vaccines, they didn't work in the 60s. the dead or killed vaccines from 1963 through 1967. >> the people who had the vaccines, that it was not very long lasting. >> so i'm -- so i'm getting the blood test. >> that's it. it is wmstill in my arms. >> reporter: doctors say it is just smart for anyone born after 1957 uncertain if they are immuned. >> actually, you are pretty good, it is not that bad. >> off my blood goes there and later i'm back at dr. joe's. >> reporter: the news is good that you are immuned that you shouldn't contract any measles. >> reporter: but as they show that you will need one or even two boosters where the bottom line to ask your doctor, don't just hope that you can avoid the measles. and again that is -- that is the live report from dc, maryland, virginia. >>> in virginia a man who lost his mom and 12-year-old daughter in a fire is hoping that

ben carson told buzz feed certain communicable diseases have been largely eradicated by immunization policies in this country, and we should not allow those diseases to return by foregoing safe of of immunization programs for philosophical, religious or other reasons when we have the means to eradicate them. >> i do not believe that vaccines are the sole cause for autism. i do believe they are a trigger. they are a trigger. and the dumbest way to explain it though, for me is, if you become overweight, you might trigger diabetes. >> all i can say is we vaccinated ours. but i also understand parents need to have some measure of choice in things. >> i've heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking, normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines. >> joining me now, dr. kent sepkowitz and political analyst and columnist for the washington post. do you want to respond to rand paul? >> it is nice to hear ben say something quite sane. >> it's the first time he's sounded like a physician to me. >> rand paul is pandering as fast as he can toward the illogical, de

immunization -- 79%. immunizations are much more available in countries in yellow and blue as well. vaccinated for the measles there. just consider what you are giving up by not taking a vaccine that people in these parts of the world would be desperate for. >> and errol health officials in europe are also working to contain measles. according to the european center for disease prevention and control there were more than 4,700 reported cases between october 2013 and september, 2014. more than 60% of those were in germany italy, and the netherlands. >>> testing for two new ebola vaccines is underway in liberia. the country is one of the hardest hit by the outbreak that's killed more than 8,900 in wes(eju)(p harmless fragments of the virus are in the vaccines which scientists hope will provoke an immune response in test subjects. the outbreak has slowed in liberia as of late which could hurt the testing. researchers might not have enough patience to see if the vaccine is making a difference. >>> of course that's patients as in patience as in time. >> exactly. >>> parts of the u.s. con

but the problem is herd immunity doesn't work unless the herd is immunized. >> only 90% of though. >>ose to 9 a, 96. >> a doctor said 90. >> i don't believe in doctors. [laughing] look -- >> don't let those facts scare you. >> i would prefer, i trust my, look -- >> you like your opinion? >> i do. >> i like your tie. >> i don't have kids but i won't vaccinate them. because they're not real. if i had real kids i would probably i would 100% vaccinate them. >> you do stay up late. >> i am. >> "red eye" man. >> if you're not sure your kid should be vaccinated, take a look at the fact it is a bunch of hollywood people who are saying they shouldn't be and realize you should do the opposite. >> i thought it was a bunch of crazy right-wingers? >> no. >> good. glad we cleared that up. media is reporting other wise. >> you bring up a good point, not just should you have it, but in my case, my concern was when. i had a baby nine, 10 months ago. i didn't want to give her shots as soon as she was born. there is lots of things. >> i went through that too. >> harris makes i think the best point and i

. >> immunity.mmunity from what here? and why? >> well, it doesn't make any sense, because if they offer companies immunity then they offer them a shield, and what this gets down to is where is -- where does the balance fall on the company, where does the company, when is the company at fault. so to offer companies indemnification can actually require companies to oversubscribe to the law in search of becoming indemnified because if a company is negligent, it should be at fault. it should be found guilty and it should be -- should go to court and be liable for the impact it has on american small and midsize businesses and the american taxpayer. >> if i've got this right, basically obama is saying, if you will pour that personal data into our servers at the federal government level, we will indemnify you for your reckless reckless failures to provide security for your customers and your clients like target has done sony has done, other companies, home depot without either s.e.c. response without any

she had had so many skin grafts from unknown donors doctors feared that her immune system would launchull scare attack on her new face. and it actually did. for weeks afterwards they muched her with every drug they could think of but nothing worked. >> we were literally on the last medication. it could shut down her immune system. >> i told him that he drug. >> the risk of death was significant. >> i want this face to work out, so i saidly do whatever i have to do. >> but to my surprise, she said i would rather die then go back. that's a powerful statement that i honestly didn't expect. >> if they couldability get the rejection under control, they'd have to remove the transplant. leaving carman with yet another mutilated face. w the clock ticking, doctors made a significant break with protocol. >> we gave a small dose of the medication, then we felt was not going to paralyze the immune system, but could help. >> it was a powerful antirejection drug. but they gave her just a fraction of the prescribed dose. >> and it turns out that that was the last little bit that she needed. >> you lo

if you think you are immune, then you may have cold symptoms. certainly, it's good to stay home if you're ill and stay away from others. and if you do get a characteristic rash, contact your health care provider. he'll talk to you about whether you should stay isolated or if you need testing or not. >> thank you for your time. >>> a burglary suspect shot is in custody this afternoon. police arrested the man after he went to san francisco general to be treated for a gunshot wound. officers shot danny rodriguez garcia after they say he drove his car at them during a traffic stop. he was able to drive off and elude police. in addition to the burg lary count he will be charged with assault with a deadly weapon on an officer. >>> a young sea lion is recuperating from his long and mysterious trek today. >> he managed to get from the ocean all the way to lake merced in san francisco. we've got a photo of the sea lion named as persevereo. >> reporter: well, you know it's a happy story and a lighthearted story and a worrisome story. this sea lion is not

. >> there's something called heard immunity where most of us who are healthy need to be vaccinated, and those most vulnerable in the society get the protection they deserve. >> reporter: but in 17 states preschool vaccination rates are below the 90% needed for heard immunity. some communities tighten up the laws which let parents opt out of immunizing their kids for personal reasons. like in california state leaders are now considering a bill to allow only medical exemption. illinois lets parents skip the shot for medical or religious reasons, but not personal ones. still, that's a moot point for the parents of the infants infected here. nothing they could have done. and now nothing they can do but wait. the cdc says children can be vaccinated as young as 6 months old if they're traveling some place where there's a higher risk of measles, historically internationally. but those kids would need two more shots after they're a year old. brian. >> hallie jackson starting us off tonight. >>> another big story, tens of millions of americans are at risk of identity theft again after this c

it just helps the immune system clear the infection. there are situations where you can get an infection with a highly resistant organism. getting control of the infection, in addition with antibiotics, people survive, because these are more resistant, the antibiotics we select will not be as good and often can caused toxicity. >> have you treated patients with a widely resist ants bacteria? >> i have treated patients with widely resistant bacteria. thank fully we don't have a rampant problem with this as you will see in other parts of the country or world. we do occasionally see it. of course we are careful making sure infection are in control, and making sure we have expertise in treating these infections. >> do you have to isolate that person. do they have to spend a lot more time in hospital. >> we end up isolating the patient, making sure people who are going into the room are wearing a gown and a glove in addition to routine hand hygiene. that is on top of the routine such as hand hygiene. so that we don't spread these bacteria po

we don't give as much vaccine as we used to and the idea this is an insult to the immune system of at doesn't bare out. >> the idea of autism with a correlation, the amount of vaccines given dropped so precipitously, autism drop, but it's the complete reverse. >> that's why i find this graph telling. sometimes a picture worth a thousand words. we don't know why autism rates go up or what causes autism but look at the graph. that shows you another reason another argument as to why vaccines are not associated with autism. >> bluntly, she thinks the science is a fallacy, that there's the darkness study that showed among people with vaccines hearing a debunking of the risks, hearing scientific evidence makes them less likely to plan on getting the vaccine. it basically backfires. so how do you combat that? >> well i think what's interesting about that and that's of course true for a lot of conspiracy theoryists the more evidence showing the conspiracy is not true is intercepted by people who believe it as further evidence they're right. i think one thing that is good to remember when we

her immune system wiped out by chemotherapy which also would have pretty much wiped out any immunityrom her own measles vaccine. what is your biggest fear for maggie? >> my biggest fear is i lose my child. or short of that she gets a severe case and becomes deaf. i mean my family has been through enough in the last six months. i mean i know there is worse out there, but we had a rough go of it and i don't want her to have to go through anything else. >> reporter: we talked to the centers for disease control and they told us not to get anywhere near eli or maggie. so we asked their parents to take cell phone video for us. we're also not going to get near their father. and that's because like many adults he has only limited immunity to the measles. we can talk to their mother however, because blood tests show she does have full immunity. and this is how the children were put in danger. four members of one arizona family went to disney land in december. they refused to vaccinate their children and came down with measles and went to the clinic. that family gave measles to a woman at the

but we have a highly immunized population here. but measles is circulating throughout the bay area as you can see from cases in other bay area regions. >> reporter: linkedin did tell me in an email that none of their other employees has come in with symptoms but they are encouraging anybody in a high risk category to talk to their doctors. ann notarangelo, kpix 5. >> today's case is contra costa county's first measles diagnosis and that brings the total number of measles cases in the bay area up to 15. we have had many viewers ask whether adults need to get revaccinated. that answer can be complicated. we put some answers on our website, kpix.com/measles. >>> a bay area father is defending his teenaged son who is charged with raping a pizza delivery driver. the 17-year-old was arrested sunday afternoon. he made his first court appearance today. ryan takeo on why the suspect's father is so convinced police got the wrong guy. ryan. >> reporter: yeah, liz. that father thinks the only thing his son might be guilty of is stealing a cell

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studying the chemicals that influence our brains and immune systems and realized if we could control these chemicals we can actually create biologically beneficial outcomes? >> that's a good way to say it. our body moves between two states. one is inflammation, but inflammation is also protective response. so if you fall down, you your yourself, you need the inflammatory response so you don't bleed to death. but exaggerated inflammation or inappropriate inflammation direct already "indirectly causes illness es . your body can be self regulating and in perfect balance. we're always moving between these two extremes. homeo stasis could be the healing bases. >> your father was a doctor in india. what did he think when you were exploreing these unorthodox therapies? >> in the beginning he was very disappointed because he thought i had wasted my education. >> and he really wanted you to be a doctor. >> yes, he very much wanted me to be--but with when i explained to him the science behind what i was doing, and how one day this was going to be--i never heard the word neuroplacity, which is

they certainly have full immunity. other people born before 1990 might not have full immunity. back then, they only gave people one shot. that worked fine for some people, but not fine for everybody. you have to talk to your doctor to figure out your particular situation. it is important to remember measles is a contagious disease. if someone walked in the room with the measles and walked out and you walked in an hour later, you could get measles. it is a disease that needs to be taken seriously. before vaccines 400 to 500 americans every year died from the measles. about 4,000 would get encephalitis or brain swelling. the cdc is keeping an eye on this and expecting it to grow bigger. john and christine. >> thanks elizabeth cohen. a lot of people in the medical community are concerned with the politicians and how they are talking about the issue. two republican candidates rand paul and governor chris christie weighed in the discussion. both favor parents getting kids vaccinated but? >> much more important what we think as a parent than what you think as a public official. that'