imogen and i were celebrating. >> let freedom ring. >> the freedom bell is ringing. the only way i can see a crackdown ending in syria is because they've killed everybody, so now it's over, so they allowed a change in the government, yet neither thing happened. i can't reconcile this statement. >> obviously we don't know fundamentally we don't know. we don't have the media inside syria. it's all, as clinton was talking about, with what's happening, it's very important that the pressure from the near neighbors. >> so you're saying the stakes are with saudi arabia and turkey to make peace in syria? >> well, to move things forward, absolutely. >> how much political risk does the president have by ignoring what's going on because of the intensity he has to deal with here from debt to jobs? >> i can tell you one thing for slur, the reason there is a pause is simply because they're reloading. >> terrible. >> they're reloading. >> the problem for obama in syria is that it demonstrates as vividly as i think as possible the ineffectiveness of his idea of smart power. if smart

webber, and imogen you're from the uk. >> i'm a huge expert. >> you don't share my quake skepticism?no, fondly enough, it was slightly scary yesterday. first of all, i think with 9/11, with the anniversary coming up, i can understand why those in the sky scrapers, you can understand that. also, let's face it, the last earthquake like this was in 1944. you've had 35 since then on the west coast. bear in mind on the east coast, the buildings are built like they are on the west coast. we saw that with the monument, the cathedral, so i think we had right to be concerned and with the nuclear reactors as well. >> those are all fair points, but at the same time i have to say in last when i was talking -- the idea of a 5.8 earthquake requires a full-deck on-hands alert. >> no 5 you eat 5.8s for breakfast. it's the same way we look at see the footage from dallas or los angeles from the little snowstorm that seems to have ground the whole place to a halt. but i think there's an issue, which are we prepared for it? i thought, okay, we had that earthquake, i've been through earthquakes before in

the coverage tended to confirm that. >> imogene, your thoughts, six years after katrina?hing that must have been, i think you were in the uk at the time. >> i was, yes. >> must have seemed shocking that in advance, an advanced western society, weren't of the wealthiest on earth, leaving so many literally stranded on rooftops? >> of course, incredibly shocking. why i think we saw the response we saw this weekend. moving forward hoping that positions, we would learn from the past. anyway, they and the media. >> tim carney, what do you make of, your thoughts on this as we remember katrina. obviously, it put a huge black mark on president bush's presidency in the eyes of the critics for really not being hands-on or mobilizing enough forces nearly enough, quickly. six years out. what's your assessment? >> part of the problem is that the incentives still aren't right. nerd, there was incentive, especially for bloomberg and christie and for obama to go ahead and overprepare. i don't think they over-overprepared. there's such a thing as, you know, buying too much insurance or say

imogen, you have a question. >> very kind. do we have to change and manage our expectations in the west in a big way? a big constituent about the chinese, they save 28% of their income, americans in the west, we save about 5% of our income. do we have to wake up and actually move, change our expectations? >> absolutely, imogen. much of the last decade was a process of denial. the housing bubble masked a lot of problems. americans were routinely outspending their incomes, partly because people's paychecks weren't grows. and americans i think do have to recognize that certainly we have to live within our means, and that the next few years or more might not be high growth years. in my reporting around the country, i have seen evidence of that shift. i think people are moving more towards an attitude of thrift and away from materialism. that happened in depression, too. honestly if this period leaves us with that sentiment, that would be a good thing at least. >> all right. don peck, the book is "pinched, a sober assessment of the

go ahead, imogene, is that right? >> i would say $10 a gallon to buy petro, to buy gasoline in the u.k. that's very much the reason everybody is buying -- >> i thought it was the standards? >> no. of course it's not. the fact you want to get somewhere at a cheaper price. therefore, what are the hance c getting riz of subsidies and moving forward with this? he's speeshless. >> i'm sorry. i think i missed the question. >> listen, we'll wrap it up, ben. thank you very much. expert from the clean vehicles program at the union of concerned scientists. >> thanks for having me o. thank you, brendan, and thank you to the panel. >>> this doesn't make sense to me how you can leave the military and environment subsidizing oil and have -- >> he worked for the auto industry, they've gotten behind him. the ethanol industry. i don't know the details. there are ways to -- >> raise standards, let's all now commit to getting ends for, subs skies for oil companies and commit to getting out of wars and to not oversubsidizing highways and

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. >> i want to get imogene in. spitzer and mark, we're in business. >> he can't be cast as that anymore. i'm wondering, have the tea party won the bottle but lost the war in the next election for republicans? obama is about getting the independent votes. one of them, the tea partiers. is he claiming that? >> i don't think electoral positioning is about getting the censors. about setting up the, what's appropriate for him debates in 2012. in other words, he doesn't want debt limit. he wants mediscare talks. wants to make sure he's debating -- >> did you just make up a word? >> i'm the one who makes up words. >> no. mediscare is one we use all the time on the right. >> that's good. >> it's frailing. not in the center. it's framing. >> did you hear that? just trying to lay a framing to ensure re-election? nothing to do with ideology? >> sadly, a political level that mediscare is problematic. either that super congress is going to cut medicare or the trig sir going to get released and 2% of cuts will happen and every r

a storm this storm lasted for one hour the one lost power and no one was injured and we got these imogenee one saying the rest of the world and nation are dying for and that is cooler weather lets walking through a we expect sunny and mild the week ahead we will see a slight cooling heading into next week nell and 90 degree weather. in any event we will end the week on a milder note. we are dealing with low cloud cover this is a satellite view of the fog, it will pull back by noon time this is what we as expected the cloud cover to look like later on. our temperatures right now look like this mid to upper 50s. our temperatures this afternoon fall into the general areas '70s around the immediate bay and the orange is the 80 degree mark in land. low to mid '80s no 90s today. we will have a look of your seven day forecast and a looked into the weekend >> we're keeping our eye on the nimitz freeway a pair of big rigs are pulled over in the right-hand lane they have been involved in an accident we're not sure the details yet no backup or delay yet no other problems are hotspot brought the bay

"the washington post" writer, j jonathan capehart, and imogen, and rob cox.contributing as we speak, robert. >> absolutely. >> are we too skeptical? is it too skeptical to look at these politicians, whether it's nancy pelosi, the republicans, the president talking blathering jobs, yes, we're in favors of jobs, maybe they'll think we're creating jobs? >> remember, this whole issue we just went through was about trying to reduce the proportion of debt to gdp, but if you think about it, that's a numerical calculation, right? so you can deal with one side of it or deal with the other side. if you deal with the other side, that is growth with gdp, with the economy. you solve all these problems. you diminish the size of the debt. you diminish the deficit, and guess what else happens when the economy grows this people are working. >> really? it's crazy. but nobody has dealt with. now we can talk about it, pivot all you like, but we've done nothing despite this moment when arguably there could having a discussion about the mathematics. >> the rnc says obama pivoted 1