selection process, when you describe them, when you describe the door selection process, it's a little impar vised. there's something very professional about this vision for the room. had you been interested about production before? >> no. and i think back and now you reach a certain age. i think some things you're just good at and some things you're not. and i think i was lucky enough to be, you know, i was born with certain -- i don't know how you wind up with certain skills. a and, you know, not intellectual skills. but i have good intellectual skills. i think i had a great mentor in the congressman. i've lerped so much that i've carried through the rest of my life. but i don't know why -- in other words, i don't think i made the same decisions today. i don't think i would have done the things -- and maybe it's youth. and, so, looking back, you say well, that was a good decision. in other words, i don't know how it winds up that way. whether you're good at things or not good. i just knew what bothered me about the water gate hearings was all of these cameras. and i just felt -- it was circusy f