they are meeting in another five-star hotel almost directly opposite the imperial hotel. the e.u. entative will go between the u.s. hotel and the hotel of all the others passing messages back and forth trying to make progress. the idea is that rather than one side having to move first, both sides are going to make a comprehensive list, a list of all the sanctions the u.s. has to lift. a list from the u.s. of what iran needs to do to come back into compliance with the nuclear deal. the idea will be to get both of these things that happen at the same time. sounds easy. it is going to be very complex. ♪ >> let's bring in our guests in washington, d.c. hillary is the former u.s. diplomat and co-author of going to tehran. running us from tehran, a professor of political science at tehran university and in vienna, the former head of the verification and security policy coordination office at the international atomic agency. let me start with you. what is it that has fundamentally changed that allowed these talks to happen? there has been months of posturing about the u.s. and iran. did t

in another hotel the imperial hotel another 5 star hotel on the opposite side of the road with an e.u. representing representative shuttling back and forth what they've decided now is the initial plan was to divide the subjects into 2 what iran needs to do what the u.s. has to do so one of the lists is related to sanctions the other is related to iran's nuclear program and they're now going to go to a lower level expert level to try and go through each of those with 2 working groups in great detail that's the view from the united nations a less a beggar is in tehran and says sanctions remain a key issue. so for iran are sticking to their guns they want all sanctions lifted and very fired by the country before they even begin to reverse any measures taken in their nuclear program they've also ruled out suspending the 20 percent uranium enrichment in exchange for $1000000000.00 of iranian money blocked outside the country because of u.s. sanctions iranian negotiators have said talks in vienna a constructive and a step in the right direction but there's still a long way to go iran feels

in another hotel the imperial hotel another 5 star hotel on the opposite side of the road with an e.u. representing representative shuttling back and forth what they've decided now is the initial plan was to divide the subjects into 2 what iran needs to do what the u.s. has to do so one of the lists is related to sanctions the other is related to iran's nuclear program and they're now going to go to a lower level expert level to try and go through each of those with 2 working groups in great detail so that's the view from the u.n. that said begun is in tehran and says sanctions remain a key issue there. so for iran are sticking to their guns they want all sanctions lifted and very fired by the country before they even begin to reverse any measures taken in their nuclear program they've also ruled out suspending the 20 percent uranium enrichment in exchange for $1000000000.00 of iranian money blocked outside the country because of u.s. sanctions iranian negotiators have said talks in vienna a constructive and a step in the right direction but there's still a long way to go iran feels i

though are not there they're meeting in another 5 star hotel almost directly opposite the imperial hotel and the e.u. representatives will go between the u.s. hotel and the hotel of all the others passing messages back and forth trying to make progress the idea is that rather than one side having to move 1st both sides are going to make a comprehensive list. a list of all the sanctions that the u.s. house has to has to lift a list of all from the u.s. of what iran needs to do to come back into compliance with the nuclear program and the idea will be to get both of these things to happen at the same time it sounds easy it is going to be very complex. all right let's bring in our guests in washington d.c. hillary mann leverett is former u.s. diplomat and co-author of going to run joining us from tehran ahmed was having a professor of political science at the iran university and in vienna tara crow former head of the verification and security policy coordination office at the international atomic energy agency welcome to the program hillary let me start with you today what is it that has fu

at austria's grand vienna hotel european officials have been shuttling between there and the imperial hotel across the road where u.s. officials are saying they're attempting to bring the u.s. back to the 2015 nuclear deal they'd signed with iran we do see this as a constructive and certainly welcome step and in the end we hope that we are able to leave vienna returned the united states are negotiating team i should say with a better understanding of a road map for how we get to that in state mutual compliance donald trump described the 2015 agreement as the worst deal in history and pulled out in 2018 trumpet then reimpose un sanctions with additional u.s. sanctions on tehran. in february by the rescinded un sanctions but he hasn't gone as far as lifting u.s. sanctions saying that will only happen once iran is compliance with the 2015 nuclear deal since then iran has been reducing commitments to the terms of the deal and was reported to have reached 12 times the level permitted of enriched uranium stockpile but iran now also agrees the negotiations are on the right path in was out on more

they're just opposite on the other side of the road in another 5 star hotel called the imperial hotel and we understand what's going to happen is the e.u. representative is going to keep. crossing the street and parsing our ideas from one side to the other i think we're going to get around the problem of who moves 1st by coming up with a pretty comprehensive list on both sides of what needs to be done in terms of the sanctions that the u.s. need to lift and in terms of the steps that iran needs to take to come back to compliance and we are idea will be rather than one side moving 1st agree to move in lockstep at the same time but it is complicated and there are all sorts of potential pitfalls the talk about a diplomatic back and forth james leave it there for the time being thanks very much james bays there at the u.n. h.q. in new york let's hear now from a set back our correspondents in tehran they don't seem to be in any rush and that's because the supreme need to hear how many just 2 weeks ago say it better not in a rush that could lead to something more dangerous they're not hirin

that just opposite on the other side of the road in another 5 star hotel called the imperial hotel and we understand what's going to happen is the e.u. representative is going to keep crossing the street and passing ideas from one side to the other i think we're going to get around the problem of who moves 1st by coming up with a pretty comprehensive list on both sides of what needs to be done in terms of the sanctions that the u.s. need to lift and in terms of the steps that iran needs to take to come back to compliance and the idea would be rather than one side moving 1st they agree to to move in lockstep at the same time but it is complicated and there are all sorts of potential pitfalls well let's discuss this further now with abdi who is president of the national iranian american council. the former u.s. congress policy adviser is joining us from washington d.c. very good to have you with us mr de so it would seem a positive for with 1st day both iran and the u.s. saying they've had constructive indirect talks but neither side right now seems ready to make concessions just yet wha

that just opposite on the other side of the road in another 5 star hotel called the imperial hotel and we understand what's going to happen is the e.u. representative is going to keep crossing the street and passing ideas from one side to the other i think we're going to get around the problem of who moves 1st by coming up with a pretty comprehensive list on both sides of what needs to be done in terms of the sanctions that the u.s. need to lift and in terms of the steps that iran needs to take to come back to compliance and the idea will be rather than one side moving 1st they agree to move in lockstep at the same time but it is complicated and there are all sorts of potential pitfalls israel's president has asked prime minister benjamin netanyahu to try to form a new government even though he believes no candidate has a real chance of finalizing a coalition proven revelent has been holding consultations with political parties after their 4th inconclusive election in 2 years he said netanyahu party was in a slightly better position and he didn't have the power to rule out netanyahu wh

that just opposite on the other side of the road in another 5 star hotel called the imperial hotel and we understand what's going to happen is the e.u. representative is going to keep crossing the street and passing ideas from one side to the other i think we're going to get around the problem of who moves 1st by coming up with a pretty comprehensive list on both sides of what needs to be done in terms of the sanctions that the u.s. need to lift and in terms of the steps that iran needs to take to come back to compliance and the idea would be rather than one side moving 1st they agree to move in lockstep at the same time but it is complicated and there are all sorts of potential pitfalls. abdi who is a president of the national union american council and a former us congress policy adviser he says the attack on even in shape fits into an existing trend it's hard to consider this a coincidence maybe it is but you know the good news is that the entire world supports a return to the nuclear deal by the u.s. and iran with a couple of notable exceptions and i think the israelis the saudis a

at austria's grand vienna hotel european officials have been shuttling between there and the imperial hotel across the road where u.s. officials are saying they're attempting to bring the u.s. back to the 2015 nuclear deal they'd signed with iran we do see this as a constructive and certainly welcome step and in the end we hope that we are able to leave vienna returned the united states are negotiating team i should say with a better understanding of a road map for how we get to that in state mutual compliance donald trump described the 2015 agreement as the worst deal in history and pulled out in 2018 trumpet then reimpose un sanctions with additional u.s. sanctions on tehran. in february by the rescinded un sanctions but he hasn't gone as far as lifting u.s. sanctions saying that will only happen once iran is compliant with the 2015 nuclear deal since then iran has been reducing commitments to the terms of the deal and was reported to have reached 12 times the level permitted of enriched uranium stockpile but iran now also agrees the negotiations are on the right path in was out on more o

in another hotel the imperial hotel another 5 star hotel on the opposite side of the road with an e.u. representing representative shuttling back and forth what they've decided now is the initial plan was to divide the subjects into 2 what iran needs to do and what the u.s. has to do so one of the lists is related to sanctions the other is related to iran's nuclear program and they're now going to go to a lower level expert level to try and go through each of those with 2 working groups in great detail the plan and then if they can get a list on both sides that both sides agree with is to basically at the same time get both countries to implement that and bring bring both into compliance with the nuclear deal it is going to still be a complicated process going through all those technical nuclear elements going through all the details of all the sanctions and designations it's estimated one estimate that. there are 1500 different searches and designation is put in place but that by the trumpet ministration jury it's 4 years so a huge task ahead and there are many back home in washingto

in another hotel the imperial hotel another 5 star hotel on the opposite side of the road with an e.u. representing representative shuttling back and forth what they've decided now is the initial plan was to divide the subjects into 2 what iran needs to do what the u.s. has to do so one of the lists is related to sanctions the other is related to iran's nuclear program and they're now going to go to a lower level expert level to try and go through each of those with 2 working groups in great detail. said bacon is in tehran then says sanctions remain a key issue there. so for iran are sticking to their guns they want all sanctions lifted and very fired by the country before they even begin to reverse any measures taken in the nuclear program they've also ruled out suspending the 20 percent uranium enrichment in exchange for $1000000000.00 of iranian money blocked outside the country because of u.s. sanctions iranian negotiators have said talks in vienna a constructive and a step in the right direction but there's still a long way to go iran feels it has suffered greatly under sanctions

that just opposite on the other side of the road in another 5 saw a hotel called the imperial hotel and we understand what's going to happen is the e.u. representative is going to keep crossing the street and passing ideas from one side to the other i think we're going to get round the problem of who moves 1st by coming up with a pretty comprehensive list on both sides of what needs to be done in terms of the sanctions that the u.s. need to lift and in terms of the steps that iran needs to take to come back to compliance and we are idea will be rolled on one side moving 1st they agree to move in lockstep at the same time but it is complicated and there are all sorts of potential pitfalls in other news brazil has recorded more than 4000 coronavirus deaths in a single day only the u.s. and peru have reached that threshold any 337000 people have died since the start of the pandemic the u.s. president says anyone over the age of 18 will be able to be vaccinated from the middle of april but joe biden is warning that covered 19 infections are still increasing with new a very in spreading quic

that just opposite on the other side of the road in another 5 star hotel called the imperial hotel and we understand what's going to happen is the e.u. representative is going to keep crossing the street and passing ideas from one side to the other i think we're going to get around the problem of who moves 1st by coming up with a pretty comprehensive list on both sides of what needs to be done in terms of the sanctions that the u.s. need to lift and in terms of the steps that iran needs to take to come back to compliance and then the idea will be rather than one side moving 1st they agree to to move in lockstep at the same time but it is complicated and there are all sorts of potential pitfalls a u.s. police chief has testified against one of his former officers has accused of murdering george floyd he told the jury in minneapolis that barry vent didn't follow department policy or training when he knelt on floyd's neck. israel's president ruben rivlin says no candidate has a real chance of forming a government though he's asked prime minister benjamin netanyahu to try rivlin has been h

are sitting in another 5 star hotel the imperial hotel on the other side of the road and the e.u. official who is chairing the meeting will go back and forth between the u.s. and the iranians effectively but also the other participants of the deal and what they're trying to do is work out everything that has to be sorted on both sides in terms of iran's nuclear. graham and in terms of the sanctions and the ideas that should go 1st they should both at the same time put everything back into place it sounds easy it's not going to be ok james thank you for that update from the u.n. i said big is joining us from tehran so what is the iranian position going into these talks. well the ringing position has been that it's the same as it's been throughout this process that they want all sanctions lifted before iran does anything now the government here has said that they're not optimistic or pessimistic but they have welcomed comments that all sanctions related in. should be lifted vulcan those again their position remains the same dearing is like the sanctions to be lifted yes are they in