that is where i started out and i started looking at it and i said well, if indeed the dad is so importa home, but maybe i can give my kds tesecondt a inire. ieapit to never badmouth their father. i didn't talk about what happened or why. they were four years old and two years old. and i just always try to say good things about him. if they were starting talk out thes th o five, six, seven years old -- if i could say something positive i did. he was a marvelous athlete, and so i would tell them your dd is an amazing athlete. i would tellhem a little quick twhu te i h them repeating the story to their friends. because they wanted to be proud to havetheir dad as their back. they wanted that. and so i did mybest him and alole t m evheulr on ild h in' m wednesdays i wouldn't say that that's it -- i said if you are free on thursday, come by on thursday i did whatever i could to encourage the relationship and i did the best that iud >> how old are your kids? [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible onversations] [inaudibleonveatio] [iudib conrsns [iib