>> the discussion hasmoved, essentily, from impving quality and improving access and decreasing costs, to one th is really about iurance rerm and increasing acss, and if we add 40 million more peop to the health care sysm in the unid states, you're going to e costs go up, and we need to take costs outf the system by decreang the total cost of providing care, by integrating, and sendly by reducing the diseaseurden in the united states, and by at imeanight now we have an epidemic going on arnd obety, weave a ot of people smoking. obesity, now, accounts for 10% of the alth care costs ithe unitestates, and $147 llion, and oking accounts for $100 biion. wecould provide a l of heal care ife didn'tave those two big problems. >> woodrf: what is esstial, as far a you're concerned, in anyealth care reform proposal that is passed into law? >> well, i think whatwe need to do -- clearly weneed to have accesfor everybody -- don't ink disagrees with that. we want to have people covered for their health care, and then, think need to put the impetus anthe incentives i place soe begin to develop the so