possibly based on this recommendation just to your active p.p.o., self-funded plan, so your p.p.o., in-network p.p.o., contracted dentist, not your delta care plan. >> not for retirees? >> no, it's not. >> ok, all right. just want to be sure. commissioner sass. >> commissioner sass: we started out talking about how there's been a build-up in the stablization reserves, but reading it correctly, smile way, estimate benefit, all these are reflected in a claim in a premium increase on the very next slide, is that in fact what's happening, so that it actually, although you are increasing benefits, it's also increasing the premium costs. is that correct, therefore, it's not actually having any, necessarily having any impact at all upon the, you know, the build-up of stablization reserves or anything else. when i'm looking at slide ten, it's important to look at that in conjunction with slide nine, each of these carries with it a premium cost. >> president scott: we heard the question, we will have the actuary answer that, not the plan representative. >> yes, looking ahead, each of the programs we will go

in premiums. this is a -- again, a care first plan for its broad network p.p.o. plans. that currently has about 13,000 people in it in maryland. 13,000 people in maryland are potentially going to get a 91% increase in their health insurance premiums because of this deliberate campaign of sabotage. if you're in other care first plans in maryland, you're getting a 19% increase. your premiums are going up by one-fifth in one single year. in large part because of this deliberate campaign to undermine the affordable care act. because of actions that this congress has taken that would knowingly increase rates for health care consumers. so, mr. president and my colleagues, i and others are going to come down to the floor of the senate over the course of the spring and summer to make sure that everyone here and everyone out there in america understands what the consequences of this republican health care saa sabotage campain is. it starts here in maryland with rate increases that get as big as 91% and virginia where health insurance increases get as big as 64%. these numbers wil