i've been incarcerated five times in the kentucky state prison system. i got a total of 27 years in the system. is it okay to go in? >> yeah. >> thank you, sir. >> narrator: keith huff is a million-dollar prisoner. the state of kentucky has spent an estimated $1.1 million incarcerating him. he's been diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. >> (whispering prayer) i do great in prison for some reason. it's sad, but i do great in prison, i mean, because i got the structure, people telling me what to do. when i got somebody behind me, on me, i do great in life, for real, i really do. >> narrator: keith is currently serving five years for burglary, theft and impersonating a police officer. he's set to be released in three months. >> i do some stupid stuff. i have been coming in and out of prison since the early '80s. every time i have left prison, it was like a revolving door. it's just a cycle. it's a curse. and where i come from, the neighborhood i come from most everybody get locked up and i mean everybody. (sirens blaring) >> narrator: keith is

incarceration. we learned that we're spending a little bit more than we thought we were. and that is part of the huge challenge that we have to undertake, that we need to solve. the cost of jails is higher than most policymakers and the public realize. and it is almost certainly higher than the 22 billion figure that i just quoted you. what we learned is that significant jail costs sit outside of jail budgets. vera conducted a survey, sent it out to a number of jurisdictions, 35 jurisdictions responded and what we learned was that in 20% or i'm sorry inquarter of the jurisdictions that responded, 20% of the budget sits outside of the jail budget. in one jurisdiction over 50% of it does. these costs pension health care legal judgments, capital costs, programming are often not found in the correction -- in the correctional agency budget, but in other agency budgets in var yaus countious counties and cities. we have our work cut out for us and perhaps what we learned is that it is more work than we tho

a reality. -- reductions in incarcerations and become a reality. we can still ensure public safety. we have been brought together to find solutions to this disturbing problem. the overuse of incarceration and criminalization of poverty race and disease. this is no small undertaking but you have been selected because macarthur knows you are the best people to take on the challenge. like you, the administration is concerned over who is behind bars, whether they belong there and how to make the justice , system more fair and humane and cost effective. the national drug control strategy of the -- is the obama and the station's primary blueprint for drug policy. and drug policies are anchored in the science and recognize that's drug use is a public health concern. leveraging resources and coordinated manner to achieve the over arching goal in drug use and consequences and criminal justice reform is a critical platform of efforts in the drug policy. for us, drug policy has been putting evidence above dogma. addressing our nations health and justice conce

are 18,000 teens with incarcerated parents on any given day one of the arguments toward this jail is it's going to to support incarcerated people who are told time and time again to create a safer space for children for incarcerated parents to be in kwhiel we deserve to interact with their parents not in our name are you going to build a jail over and over again that's what the young people are telling us what they need more than a new jail and safe conditions to visit their parents is to let them go home. not with the current rates of resittism is in this city i'm asking you not to build a new jail. >> thank you. with that let's close public comment i want to say before i give colleagues a moment to give closing remarks i will be moving that we continue item number three it will be transferred to the government audits and oversight committee thursday morning i'm not sure this one or the next one. but jane kim's office should no and i will ask my colleagues to file that item it will be by supervisor kim as well and there are two cards i have here i want to thank everyone for testifyi

people are traumatized during incarceration and that trauma leads to substance use well. those are primarily in our health care system for example our education system, other things we are do, so, we need to figure out how we address these issues that doesn't rely on the criminal justice system. we have not given them any tools to manage these problems and they are not doing it well. fortunately we have models, the country of portugal for example, seattle is getting people directly in services and housing which has shown great success in addressed recidivism and reducing cost. i would encourage you to look at these models. >> thank you for this hearing. >> thank you. >> thank you, i'm amy, i echo everything said by the public defenders office and coalition of housing and speaking on the racial bias issue. i watched "take the hammer" where an african american author came to bayview and it was in the height of redevelopment. she talked to a group of people and said you can't even stand on the corner without police coming to break it up. i would like to say it different in 2

incarceration is incarceration is incarceration. and people need to follow the rules. absolutely no alcohol. no drugs. >> seems like every time i'm trying to do the right thing to do better, it's -- a rock just falls right in front of me and i can't go no further. it's like i'm stuck right there. >> lohden is moved to a fresh arrest dorm. a special housing unit for women newly booked into the jail. she will remain until a judge decides whether to return her to home incarceration or make her serve the rest of her sentence in jail. but lohden seems determined to make an impression. >> that's my bunk. >> yeah, it's mine now. you snooze, you lose. there ain't no bunk assignments in [ bleep ] jail. get that [ bleep ] right. >> hey, come back out here. >> they own bunks around here? >> come back outside. >> i'm good. >> come on, come on. we're going to go out here -- >> excuse me? excuse me? excuse me. >> i said i'm sick, and i've got to be on the bottom bunk. >> okay, that's fine. but i didn't think the jail, nobody owns no bunks around here. [ bleep ]. >> we thought she wa

. >> so they end up incarcerated. they end up here rather than on the street. >> it's extremely expensive. it costs $10,000 for a 28 day program. there is not a lot of long term treatment plans here in new hampshire. you actually get more in prison than you do out in the community. ws kind of unfortunate. what are people going to do, start committing crimes for treatment? there are a lot of programs and such a long waiting list. >> the influch of inmates influx of prisoners have already put the female facility over capacity. >>> has everyone who wants to seek treatment able to do so? >> no. there are people currently on the waiting list for nine month program. but it is sort of a multifold issue. there is only one of me. in this facility in this building space is at a premium. >> doesn't it sowrnd almost sound a little insane that a state with such a heroin problem is ranked 49th in terms of its treatment options? >> new hampshire was one of the last states to adopt medicaid treatment programs, they've enhanced the nu

we know better and we know who is going to be incarcerated. especially men and youth of color, people who are mentally ill and people who are homeless. how to have community safety. i know greg suhr there will be an increase of officers in the streets which to me will only increase public hazards and decrease safety. what will increase public safety is change the ratio and economic inequities in san francisco. e evictions have increased 40%. gentrification may have something to do with that. people with mental illness i think between 20 and 50% of people in the jail have mental illness and often have a history of trauma and abuse addition. they often get longer and the relationships in the jails and prince prince. -- prisons. this is no place for mental illness. families are traumatized when their family members are in jail. >> thank you, next speaker, the poverty scholar and always in struggle for $1. i'm the poverty skol affirmative what you going to do, arrest me? i'm in your city. i'm the scholar and we did jail time just trying to stay al

nation collective a collective of previously incarcerated people.e was formerly incarcerated and spent 11 years in new york's prison system for criminal weapons possession and other charges. during that time, he was held in solitary confinement for a total of five years. welcome both of you to democracy now! i want to begin with you christie thompson. talk about what you found. >> what i and npr set out to do was find out how often prisons were taking someone from solitary confinement where they are locked down 23 hours a day, almost no human contact, and then releasing them the very next day back to their families. we reached out to all 50 directions department account in 21st day/year, over 10,000 people were sent straight from segregation back to the community. what was even more striking is 26 states and the federal bureau of prisons actually could not tell us how often that was happening. we talk to many people who had had his experience. what was interesting without -- was how similar the stories were. they had a fear of crowds, difficulties t

so, we know that policing, that incarceration doesn't make our community safer. we know what does make our community safer, things like access to jobs and education at city college to affordable housing to opportunities to mental health treatment and community based services and that fill the infrastructure and the support and connectedness to community that drive incarceration and this increase in policing that really does destroy the thread and the community that are most impacted by them. to me that's what we should be spending those resources on and not increasing policing and not increasing incarceration. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker? >> hi, my name is irvin from the justice project. we know that the proposed increasing in policing is intimately tied to the jail expansion. he said that the jail will justify every new jail. we facilitate each group every friday and we are clear about the conditions of our community. one of our members was interested as a result of a situation and not offered services and one was harassed by an officer and t

the way we have done that is to incarcerate one out of 100 of our fellow citizens which is extraordinary the number. it's even more dramatic in minority communities. >> host: you talk in your book about the unknowability of procedural and substantive criminal law. >> guest: one theme in the book is the law or the law can't be known. there's a scene at the beginning of the book where the guards show up at joseph kay's room and say we are arresting you for violation of the law and joseph kay says that i didn't do anything wrong. they said do you know what the law is and he says i don't know what the law is. how can you be sure you haven't violated it? have you lived a perfect life and in the novel he is german at one point if he doesn't know what he is accused of and doesn't know what the law says to write his autobiography as a way of proving to the court that he has never violated any law which horse is a preposterous suggestion or he has never done anything wrong. in the united states our criminal law has flowered if you can call it that over the last 25 years. the easy approach that le

. >> i want to know if incarcerated youth will be able to vote. >> i believe in february this february we met with the chief of the department and said most likely extended the ballots to the youth no problem. >> that's the goal to make sure we can extend that level of franchisement to the incarcerated. >> it's not part of the resolution. >> it didn't have to be. >> john gibner, deputy city attorney under state law people who are currently in prison for a felony or on parole can't vote so this provision will apply to youth who are incarcerated not for a felony. >> thank you. >> and if you're pre1y5u9d adjudicate the state law that passed two years ago that shifted people into county jails. >> ab 109. >> realignment yeah. yeah the word escaped me under repollinate yes yourably to vote. >> that was also the issue we had so. >> i'm sorry. >> we had a concern will come incarcerated youth participate in the electrical process can they vote and we discussed this so they can for the public record. >> and chief said this is something he can do. >> from the legislation passes with the restricti

incarceration, you are developing training programs that don't allow them to sustain a real -- a life, you don't -- they can't take care of them they can't take care of their families and so they turn to crime. what is it we should be doing that allows these individuals to come back into our communities to create a better lifestyle and then look at how we're doing drug treatment in most of these neighborhoods. they don't exist in most of these affluent neighborhoods, in ashburg or some of our affluent communities but we let certain communities be throw away communities, where we do drug treatment. i believe police want to do their jobs but you don't expect police to go inside someone's home and say do you have a gun? are you going to shoot somebody? >> after the break, is perception a lag ugh indicator, where crime is a lead being leading indicator, what are the police spoafs supposed to be an indicator? tonight's "inside story." i'm ray suarez. crime statistics are rarely uniform across a city, some places are inevitably safer than others. but part of the political equation that some

you know how much it costs a day to incarcerate somebody? >> i'm paying you to lock me up. i didn't ask -- >> you ain't paying me. you're paying tax dollars. >> you just said i'm taking money from y'all. >> you're taking from metro government. i work for metro government. >> so i got to pay the government for them to lock me up? >> yeah, 'cause the government has to pay for your housing. it has to pay for these bills. >> no, i'm not going to bull county. >> you got to pay $25 a day to be incarcerated. >> that's bull[bleep] though is what i'm saying. you're charging me to be locked up. i didn't ask to be locked up. >> we're not charging you. >> i didn't say, "come lock me up." >> taxpayers voted that, all right? >> i didn't say, "come lock me up. here comes some money. here, i want to be in jail. i got bills on the street to pay. [bleep] i don't like paying the government to lock me up. >> step back in. >> he got kind of mad, but, you know, he's got to deal with the consequences. like lieutenant collins told him, put money on the books illegally. you know, that's his fault.

they involve profound inequities in education, in incarceration, in criminal justice. that is the agenda we now have to swivel over to. >> you write so good rid answer to cop fed ratkop confederate flags and let's swivel. children don't have an equal shot at life because of the color of their skin. how big a role does economic fairness play into the equal shot that you mentioned, nicholas? >> you know absolutely. but it's complicated. and if you look at the progress since the 1960s, in some ways there really has been tremendous progress. and there is a much bigger black middle class than there ever was before. but there are an awful lot of people who are stuck and not getting traction. and the working class in general has suffered. those people who were educationally left behind who are high school dropouts or only high school graduates, whether they're white or black, face a huge obstacle and those who were african-american in particular. and so if we try to figure out, you know, where we go from here then i think we have to focus on some of these educational issues a

do you know how much it costs to incarcerate somebody?just said i'm taking money from y'all. >> you're taking money from metro government. >> so i've got to pay the government to lock me up? >> yes. because the government has to pay for your housing and bills. >> $25 a day to be incarcerated. >> [ bleep ] is what i'm saying. you're charging me to be locked up. i didn't ask to be locked up. i didn't say, come lock me up. >> the taxpayers voted. >> i didn't say, come lock me up. i'm going to be in jail. i've got bills on the street to pay [ bleep ]. i don't knee the government to lock me up. >> stand back in. >> he got kind of mad, but, you know, he's got to deal with the consequences. like lieutenant collins told him, put money on the books illegally. you know, that's his fault. he lost everything he's got. so, you know, i was fair with him. i do the same to every inmate when they first get in a fight. they get 10 days. he's just not happy right now. >>> coming up -- >> say a-b-c-d-e-f-g. >> brian voltz puts his tough-guy image aside, at l

unaccompanied we've lowered to 16 to foster better connections between older children and their incarcerated moms and dads they're trying to increase that. >> next slide, please the way the staffing breaks down is by the pie chart 52 percent of the breakdown is signed assigned to the jails and everything attended to the jails 35 percent of the staffing to the field civil operations decision and 10 to the administrative support and 3 percent to alternatives to incarceration i think that 3 percent is not able since our department wore renown if you will and has been for sometime in its innovations and enhancements trying to tackle the high jail alternatives for krarpgs only 3 percent of aggregate budget says something next slide at our high power point 7 or 8 years ago as referenced i think when chief suhr was speaking our jail population at a time when another attempt to transfer the units was being conducted and then suspended stopped was when the jail population went to over 22 hundred in 2007, 2030 or so because staffing requirements needed staffing to be the directed back into the custody

. >> i was never incarcerated with him. when i found out he was incarcerated, what he did time for, what he got charged for, they asked me if there would be any problems if we were in the same prison. i told them yeah, i would probably end up killing him. i just cannot condone that. >> "lockup" has profiled plenty of inmates who spewed hatred toward sex offenders. but we've also introduced viewers to those on the receiving end. thomas headley is serving years at utah state prison. and like many sex offenders say his punishment is unjust and his crime is misunderstood. >> i was charged with kidnapping somebody that was under 14. i'm a man that is attracted to young women. god forbid, 99% of us are. >> when we interviewed him, headley was serving his time in solitary confinement as a punishment for being uncooperative. but he explained to us he has his own motives for being in the hole. >> there's not a safer place anywhere in the prison than where i'm at. no matter what you do, how far you try to approach it, you're a worthl

communitieses are enforced by police they're in fact enforcing a system that is keeping people incarcerated disenfranchised removing opportunity and stuck in a cycle that gets caught up in our jis tis system we can't do it in a different way if we want to think of police staffing increases let's think it about it in a way that is good for all of the people in san francisco the victims and even the perpetrators of crime can can we make sure there are fewer perpetrators of crime not just arresting them adding them to rollses of people in our jails but addressing it in other ways education housing other supports but not increase the police officers that we know is going to lead to increasing incarceration i will be here for the whole meetings >> supervisor kim sn >> i want to thank supervisor weiner and cohen for this hearing i'm glad we're going to begin this discussion before us i think there say number of factors that really bring us to a place that discussion is necessary. we do have immense population growth particularly in the district i represent neighborhoods that didn't exist before a

. >> the love brothers were initially incarcerated together at another iowa prison.ut once again, brad followed michael, and the result was more violence. >> the last fight that we got into, this guy told on my brother for smoking weed. mike told me, he said, here, i'm going to go beat him up. he's like i want you to shoot jiggers, watch out for us. i said all right. so i was standing outside the cell and mike goes in there, and i just -- i don't know what made me do it but i look in the window and it was only supposed to be one dude in there but there was two guys and they was trying to get on mike and i was like no, that ain't going to happen. so i ran in there, and i grabbed the other dude, and beat him up pretty bad. and then they shipped me out and then that was it. yeah, that sucked. >> brad was transferred to anamosa. only to find a long lost relative was already doing his own time there. >> my father was in here for messing with kids. and you know, i ain't cool with that. and he tried talking to me but i told him, you know i ain't got no respect for you for w

locked up in our jails what cost is that to the city to do all that police and judicial work and incarceration and probation that is a huge cost we can't expect to have if we put more officers on the street we have before us this next year the next two years eight academy classes i believe that the 1971 number that has been in practice is actually a charter amendment that should be at that number in practice it's a guideline we have reached that 1971 number rarely the last time we were there in 2009 for a few months before we were hit with a large number of retirements since we have had those retirements we should be filling the ranks to make sure we have adequate number of staffing we haven't been there in a number of years let's get to the adequate number staffing through the proposed academy classes and think of a multidisciplinary approach what the size of the police department should be. that too me makes more sense than the growth of population or neighborhoods that didn't exist. if we have housing in san francisco we can make adjustments to our housing that is something we have the abil

. >> my name is jesus garcia, i have been incarcerated for nearly 12 1/2 years.first degree murder and i have life plus 26 years to serve. >> when we met jesus garcia at the penitentiary of new mexico he had recently been involved in the bloody assault of two officers. >> leading up to that day there had been incidents where they messed with me. that was the third time. i said, that was it. that's enough. i broke my tv, made a couple shanks and assaulted them. assaulted one of them. i got him, and then another officer came to his rescue and obviously trying to defend myself, i assaulted him, too. >> they were slashed around the head, neck, came very close to the jugular on one of the officers. >> i remember running into the pod. there was an inmate between both of them and they were both being stabbed. >> aaron bell rushed to aid his fellow officers moments after the assault began. >> i hit the inmate, tried to get him by his arm, and i slipped. and i didn't realize what i slipped on was all blood. >> it took a couple of minutes before we got other officers in th

commission and exemplary i'm proud of my views and city and not going to stop fooiblth i'm formally incarcerated and keeping us out of the city and people like me can't live in places because of my record and other people are being criminalized because of their homelessness and if you build those housing you'll displace people and mayor ed lee it not a crime to be poor we need our housing in order to stop magnificent incarceration and conflicts we need to stop luxury housing and gentrification i'm here to ask that we as a city and this board needs to support of moratorium we need to stay i was born and raised but i can't raise my family here we need our browning people to release that guess common we need to be colonized the way that everything works and ed lee they need to get out i swore on the constitution i'll protect the constitution and the city from all foreign and domestic terrorists they're our mayor and you're going to be a terrorist if you don't support this >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> (clapping). >> i want to say that, please and thank you to all the community you're so be

jail there is an >> ever-changing drama that is played out daily among the 3,500 men and women incarceratedere. >> life in the county, baby. >> the majority of them have only been charged with crimes and here awaiting trial on the resolution of their cases. but for some, waiting can be unbearable. the jail's medical staff responds to a code one alert. a medical emergency. an inmate has just attempted suicide by hanging. he is 28-year-old arnulfo guerra. guerra is alive but unconscious. medics work to assess the extent of his injuries. the officer discovered guerra. he was called in after another officer reported that guerra had covered the lights in his cell making it difficult to see inside. >> the duty officer called us. we responded to do a check. and noticed he was hanging. he tad taken the bed sheet, tore into a strip, and around his neck a couple of times. i cut him down and he was still breathing. >> san antonio fire department paramedics arrive, guerra has begun to regain consciousness. >> he was on his knees hanging forward? >> no, just hanging. >> guerra, talk to me! >> one, two,

comprehensive rehabilitation program designed to keep young inmates out of the revolving door of incarceration. >> you want them to be the same consistency. >> 30 different agencies outside of the facility that come in and out, help mentor the kids. >> try and go the other direction. you're going up and down. go left and right a little bit. >> art therapy, anger management, narcotics anonymous, gang related things. >> remember, we're trying to pick up the color. >> normally we call jail college for criminals. they talk to other inmates. next time you do this, next time you do that, try this. so they learn better ways to commit crime. that's generally been the culture in jail. we believe this is the future of corrections which is we are going to put a stop to that. >> this jail was built at that time when we were warehousing inmates. we don't want to warehouse inmates anymore. we want to get back to what the true nature of corrections is, and that is to correct their behavior and make them better people. >> how is it going, guys? just get back from the yard?

he's been incarcerated most of his life. he's definitely way up there on the food chain. >> several weeks earlier, mickey was transferred here from new york city's notorious rikers island jail. >> he had a bunch of charges assaulting other inmates, assaulting staff, and he definitely has a following. a lot of people under him that will do whatever he tells them to do. they have to do it, otherwise, they'll be in trouble. by sending him out here, it kind of strips him of his power and he's more isolated. >> records indicate and mickey concurs the two hour drive from rikers to suffolk was not without incident. >> i'm like, yo, where am i going? you're going far. i'm like, no, suit up. when i turned around, it was like fight time. we started timing. they whooped me out, tied me and took me to suffolk county. i've been a hostage ever since. this was my career. this was what i wanted to be. i wanted to wear red flag and bang for my gang since i was like this. and that's the honest to god truth. it sounds so stupid now, but i neve

they said incarceration of 10 months for taking a life is not enough.we fear this will not send out the proper message. >>> we are hearing from mother of a 16-year-old killed while watching a street race. >> and an eyewitness account of the moments before a shark attacked a boy in florida and meet the woman trying to row from japan to san francisco, what she says will be the best part. life's super scary sounds. and sneaking in without moving the bed. ♪chicken in the bucket♪ ♪chicken in the beans♪ ♪chicken in the bucket♪ ♪chicken in the beans♪ ♪chicken in the bucket♪ ♪chicken in the beans♪ and if i could i'd put chicken in the lemonade. it's finger lickin' good. life's super scary sounds. and sneaking in without moving the bed. >>> still no sign of two convicted killers who escaped from a prison in new york this weekend. despite a $100,000 reward for the this arrest. the prison is 20 miles from the canadian boarder. it is believed they may have had help from the inside. david lee miller tells us authorities interviewed a possible suspect. >> the investi

we believe that the way in which our country incarcerates more individuals, as you pointed out, than industrialized nation on earth, really speaks to the wrong-headed priorities of our federal government and state government and the way in which it handles criminal just issues. as grover pointed out, there are many instances when the criminal justice system responds as it should. there are some individuals who need to be in prison for long periods of time. but having said that we should evaluate the way in which our country applies its criminal justice laws to make sure that we're not taking people into prison who don't need to be there, that we're not keeping them longer than necessary and that we're not spending more on incarcerating people than we are on the rehabilitation side of the criminal justice system. and so the leadership conference on civil and human rights has joined forces with groups like americans for taxpayers reform to form a coalition on public safety. and it's a group that includes the aclu and the center for american progress. it's funded as well by the ford fou