. >> when we were looking at a $4 incorrectverth for the pg&e green alternative, the logic flowed pretty easily from that. ~ that our cheapest version would still be more expensive than theirs and that's a loser. and in order to create some differentiation so that we have a product that's better that we can market, we would have to increase the rates even further to create a buildout program that was attractive in the marketplace. so, that logic was pretty straightforward and that would lead me to where you ended up. if pg&e is sitting at $6, that throws that logic out the door. >> yeah, pg&e would be today at $6 or so. >> right. and it just makes it very difficult to make rate decisions in that kind of environment where we have no idea what they're going to be doing because they are the competition. >> yes. >> and they will compete. >> how soon are they coming out with their plan? >> they have to take it before the commission for approval which would take -- >> california public utilities commission. >> yes, the california public utilities commission. right now it's a period of receivin