achieved or declared independence backed off from that but anyway try to get certainly get more out of the central government in madrid and many in catalonia would argue that the mcready quezada lead to much considering them not much of that leadership is now in jail so one looks at it on one side that is a band closing down saying violence didn't work and then you look at the catalonian side and there you would have people who say well pursuing democratic past doesn't work it's a bit confusing from the outside to say this one. the basques have gotten to where the catalans are now. and the can land debate is a complex one. and not with just a possible hint of of tension behind that. which which the basque experience would alter the other thing and which no one is taking into account is the the great guiding element for balance for the past pacification was invention of our respondents and irish politics is now at a crisis point because everything that led to pacification is now falling apart with drugs. sure and this is a major bank grown problem well i just want to bring in luke again

so i think that talking about modernity the independence movement all over europe and the world as our oba get it to pursue a pacific. way to gain their rich their goals and i think that it they support equally is a very good news because that chapter was how to say something that created a problem in the dependence movement not only of course for the. people and i hope but this will happen to heal the. enormous tremendous suffering of being. in the base and those. of our low i hope this definitely has of the pacific movements and understand that only. pursuing our political rights and freedom of expression can help in. achieving our goals in rake do you think ed to has abandoned its ways because of every kid nation that violence doesn't achieve anything is it. isn't the basque country today better off than sixty years ago when all of this started isn't that right doesn't that region have now more autonomy that actually in the past it has much more autonomy there are regions or the whole reorganization of spain on a regional as a regional as basis on the basis of devolution of central

i worked for an independent counsel. i worked for the whitewater independent counsel. i taught a course of the university of maryland for quite a few years where we did an entire session on the role of the independent counsel. the differences between an independent counsel and a fellow prosecutor. accountable to executive. the fundamental difference is an independent counsel under the law that was in place from the watergate era until 1999, with a couple of breaks, that law involved the appointment of the prosecutor by the court. that is very far from our traditional model. because everybody in the department of justice is accountable to the attorney general and the president. the prosecutor appointed by the court is not. that was the purpose of the law. soon after it was passed, there was a landmark supreme court case in which the constitutionality of the law was challenged. i am sure you have taught this case. ted olson challenged the authority to conduct that investigation. the supreme court overwhelmingly rejected the challenge. and found the independent counsel st

--lived in independence hall he was in independence hall and when he was walking home, he came across a woman named a little and she asked him what kind of government he created. when you think about it, it is a thet teaching point for monarchy. it wasn't clear what sort of structure would have -- structure -- what structure we would have. was a republic, if you can keep it. it was up to the people whether the constitution would be faithfully executed. that mrs. aspects is howell did not even have a right to vote at the time, the franklin said it was up to her at the time. >> with that, i would like to allow a little bit more time for questions from our audience. please keep in mind you will be allowed one question, no a quite a long diatribe. at theidentify your self -- et and lisa rimmer with that, let us turn to the public. please introduce yourself. >> hi, i'm with rumored news. i'm wondering what your mindset is on whether a sitting president can be indicted and if considerationany given policy? >> that was to questions. this innot answer context of any current matters. data from

independent independent expenditure. what is the? super pac's. 527. knowis tough, but if you the difference between hard money and soft money, you will be fine. host: are you ready for a question? are you still there? caller: yep. host: here is our question -- according to the constitution, who presides over the u.s. senate? the vicee whip, president, the secretary of state, the senate majority leader, or the speaker of the house? caller: i will go with the vice president. host: that is correct. detailsay to file the of the question, and this is how a multiple-choice question becomes really hard, because many of my students will see constitution,h, but the question is who presides over the u.s. senate, and that word "presides" is the game changer in the question. the presiding officer of the u.s. senate is the vice president. what power does he or she have? very little, opens the session and then breaks the type. it does not happen too often. question about twitter -- any guesses about what the free response questions might be? you cannot go wrong bac

groundswell attempt to eradicate all independent. media voices that are opposed to the orbán regime and for us reporters without borders hungary is the worst example of this of course we have a similar trend that's going on in poland right now that we're watching very closely that we hope would not produce the same result as it did in hungary and so that's why hungry is the worst performer in the european region in our index suppose finished thank you for talking to us about the media landscape in hungary we are going to say goodbye to hold on to moscow for the rest of our program. we had to the philippines now the country drop six ports from last year now to get one hundred thirty three on the press freedom index in twenty seven thousand nine hundred journalists were killed making it the deadliest country in asia for members of the media hostility towards the press comments from the top down the country's president of the day routinely lambast the media in twenty sixteen shortly before being sworn in he warned journalists that they

independents, (202) 748-8002. i want to focus on independents for jeff. you mentioned bernie sanders' 1988 campaign. a passage from your book, even though bernie lost, he said it was an important political marker. in vermont, he was a viable alternative to the republicans. throughout 1986 in 1980, bernie had to contend with the exit media narrative he was going to be responsible for electing the republican by taking away democrat votes. talk about the status of independent bids in the wake of what bernie sanders it in 2015. -- sanders did in 2015. outside ising difficult to do. it is rarely successful. bernie sanders is a long serving independent in congress here he is the exception that proves the rule. as we have seen the rise of trump is a and extremism -- extremism, bernie sanders is working closer with the democratic party. he raises money for democrats. it is difficult to run outside of the system. bernie has an incredible credibility with independent voters. caucusesatic areas and , he was winning the voters 3-1, 4-1, in some cases, five-want. publ

independents, (202) 748-8002. we are continuing to look at some of the headlines today, including from "the wall street journal" which reports an impasse between u.s. and chinese officials on trade talks. it said "the u.s. and china asked one another to make squeezing concessions in trade talks, failing to bridge shirt divisions and raising the chances that each government will slap tariffs of tens of billions dollars on the other country's exports. economic officials on both sides exchanged lists that contained sizable demands. china to cut its trade surplus by $200 billion, while chinese officials sought to get washington to ease national security reviews of chinese investments. instead of reaching common ground, the talks ended inconclusively on friday." calling from south portland, maine on our democrat line, good morning, dennis. caller: thank you for taking my call. two quick points. i have heard this morning a lot of people calling and saying, why is trump talking about obama? president trump talking about

another independence push what is left reads next moves and what does it all mean for europe will i ask spain's former foreign minister may get. reeling from a catalan secession catastrophe madrid is watching over the rest of the provinces where independence voice is still ringing loud despite a crackdown on separatist leaders will the new kind of government continue on a course of confrontation on the spanish prime minister afford to restore catalan autonomy and how does this impact on the rest of europe. he laughing when i think us thank you very much for being our guest today it's a pleasure well it's a brother of mine all right so want to start with because it's back in the spotlight again the new capital and. leader mr torres very pro independence and he offered dialogue to spanish prime minister he wants madrid to return the autonomy to catalonia and stop direct rule from it i mean what are the chances while qatar or the hispanics will be our always a spain i mean we have

didn't toss permission no we want independence because when the french arrived our country was independent in eight hundred fifty three when the french declared us a colony that in a nice case. a referendum in one thousand nine hundred seven was seen as illegitimate by many because recent arrivals from france were allowed to vote those supporting independence boycotted it violence followed in which dozens were killed no one wants a repeat most opinion polls suggest the new caledonia will stay french but for the president the result is as important only as the process unless this process is seen as legitimate and fair he'll be disappointed president macro is unlikely to make another trip to new caledonia before november's referendum this visit is to set the tone and littleness al-jazeera noumea. good look at headlines this hour israeli forces a five live ammunition and tear gas at palestinians protesting on the israel gaza border forty one people have been killed by the israeli military since demonstrations began in late march palestinians want to be allowed to return to villages where thei

independence i wrote an article most of. the title was social thirtieth three. that means i. was so awful that. there were three countries. one color only declared up and there was little state in the world that nobody recognized and of course european members they're not going to recognize got donya so within the european union there could be some transfer petition of the people of partition of some parliament but national state there will be no possibility for you know to integrate or to have any relation with the e.u. institutions so you're absolutely right that catalan conflict has implications beyond the spanish border i'm talking about the western balkans because cost of us beat to join the you can advance any further because pain will never recognize it probably fearing the capital and like you said do you see any kind of scenario where spain may change position on cost of the of the keep its position on on capital. you know i was foreign minister of spain during the seven years and i have tremendous pressure from some european countries from united states from some ba

dewayne, independent line in louisville, kentucky. guest: i would like to say the was zones for guns, i president of the pta. i always had a problem going to school. i had to park my car across the street because i had a gun. president.ere pta president trump encouraging the idea of arming trained teachers. arming teachers? guest: i agree with that. ,f they had weapons in school some teachers had some weapons, maybe the principal or counselor , it fell. fort is like an invitation someone to come in there and should the school up. . host: this is in the louisville area? guest: yes. host: middle school or high school? guest: high school. host: christine, republican line. think the president is doing a great job. sex and stuff,ut look at clinton. us and theg care of united states. we have kids in my town that are it is nice to give, but we have given so often that we never get anything back. we have to start taking care of the united states or we won't be able to take care of anyone else again. host: the president speaking today. the ins

kevin is calling in from virginia and are independent line -- on our independent line.ill that impact your vote in november? caller: not really. amendment, you have restrictions on your rights. i believe you should have a mental evaluation for your guns. you have to be mentally sound. you have to have excessive training. you should go in every few years like you do to renew your driver's license. i don't own a gun. i don't fear for my life to go out in the streets. i'm not that afraid to walk around. i don't need a gun to walk around in a free society. i don't have a reason to be afraid of anyone who does own guns because most of them are honest and decent citizens. we need to find a common balance on this and not get so mad and angry. everyone is getting angry with each other. test, a mentala evaluation. make sure everyone who owns a gun has a sound mind. host: a little bit more about the reaction the president is getting for his address yesterday. from "washington post" -- left some gun-control activists more optimistic. cecil is calling in on our republican line from

remember the bus was to be independent of the others three machetes tried with the system because of the fiscal policy and i will see the other satisfy you mentioned the basque nothing's going to happen because the basle really happy and it's true because they're in charge of their own finance and and the end of the day that's what initially catalans wanted they wanted to be in charge of their own finances so why give the rights the basque but not to the catalans because the cuttle done in one nine hundred seventy fight renaud nj people dudgeon or that they were they were not what there was the new constitution they offer the same treatment to bust and cut us. to the bus to say ok you have fiscal policy you out of tournaments in fiscal of budget take if you have a deficit in transport or you have a different treatment or you have other future deficient you have to pace you passed the cut and say no. i want to have a special treatment but there the central government have to pay might they fix it so now they are a clear him and they say oh we were wrong we want the same treatment of t

it is not independent of the executive branch. the department has a responsibility to be in accord with the priorities of the administration. that is what elections are for. we have changes of priorities to change our emphasis. we change some of our policies. in the independent -- in the individual decisions we make about who to prosecute in particular, those decisions have to be made without regard to politics. we decide we are going to focus on violent crime, or public corruption, but then in making the decisions about which cases of people to prosecute, we need to apply neutral principles. but is what we mean about the independence of the justice department. ron: the department of justice, as he mentioned, part of the executive branch. it is also charged with an fortunate -- and forcing the rule of law. given how human nature works, there are certain to be conflict between the two. can you tell us how you go about managing those complex? -- those conflicts? gen. rosenstein: conflicts between which? ron: demand by the rule of la

you are right to say that an independent scotla nd right to say that an independent scotland in the firstof the uk. if i can interrupt you, we might remind our view is that during the independence referendum campaign george osborne, then chancellor, is ruled out the idea of a monetary union where scotland could continue to use sterling. yes, that is one of the key reasons why the document now moves to what is just using the pound anyway because it means no longer in a future independence referendum could the uk government use that particular argument because they say they are going to use it anyway. 0ne they say they are going to use it anyway. one of the other arguments in the 2014 referendum was about whether or not an independent scotla nd whether or not an independent scotland would ever have been able to bail out the royal bank of scotla nd to bail out the royal bank of scotland and the bank of scotland. this document effectively acknowledges that scotland no longer has its own banking sector and an independent scotland would not be expecting to bail out a major international bank. t

to recognize is notf independent of the executive branch. the department has a responsibility to be in accord with the priorities of the administration. that is what elections are for. we change our embassies, we changeie our policies. in the individual decisions we make, for example who to prosecute in particular, those decisions have to be made without politics. we decide we are going to focus on violent crime are public corruption, for example. in making decisions about which cases, we need to apply natural principles and that's what we mean when we talk about independence for the justice department. >> the justice department has he just mentioned as a part of the executive branch, but is also the entity charged with enforcing the rule of law. .. with the concerns in the executive. i would like to ask you something about the other branch of government. the congress. of the executive. i'd like to ask you something about the other branch of government, how do you go about balancing. how do d you go about balancing those twog things. >> funn

julia: the non-independent independent central bank, mike mckee? michael: he is setting independent policy theory on its head. university columbia professors compounded about companies in liquidity cap switch turkey is not saying maybe if racing rates will push inflation up. he seems to be applying that and saying if you cut interest rates, we will see inflation fall. that is not it -- is what is happening. i brought a chart with turkeys lira and the inflation rate, and you can see what is happening as inflation goes up, the clara goes down. that is totally unremarkable. goes down. that is totally unremarkable. there is an election next week, and if he wins, it could push the lira much lower. david: i think it was very nice that mike said if he wins. julia: exactly. david: he is going to get his way, whether it is the right way or the wrong. julia: that is what he is saying, i am going to get my weight with policy. he is speaking to the people of the country and not economists. a habit short-term debt and are independent on oil. he is saying to peo

to thrive on its own in the you know in the form of new caledonia became independent the balance in the region which china already has a lot of influence of of out of water and fiji if you caledonia were independent charter would look to extent that it still is here. those supporting independence though say there is a principle at stake when it fronts color noise new caledonia it didn't toss permission no we want independence because when the french arrived our country was independent in eight hundred fifty three when the french declared us a colony that in a nice case. a referendum in one thousand nine hundred seven was seen as illegitimate by many because recent arrivals from france were allowed to vote those supporting independence but we cultivate violence followed in which dozens were killed no one wants a repeat most opinion polls suggest the new caledonia will stay french but for the president the results as important only as the process unless this process is seen as legitimate and fair he'll be disappointed president macro is unlikely to make another trip to new caledonia b

independent. go ahead. here last guest joseph tartakovsky made a point about how the founding fathers were in disagreement so much about trying to get the country in order. i refer to them as confounding fathers with all of their inconsistencies and how they treated people in the 3/5 compromise and so on. calling about the russian interference in the 2016 election to help trump. back in the day and throughout the history of this country basically they hated communists and people from russia and despised what they were trying to get started in this country almost as much as they hated black people or latino people are muslim people today. for the republicans today to feel like they can support trump knowing that we've already got evidence showing his campaign was colluding or working or speaking or doing whatever with , they makes and also this point about why don't we work with trump from ,nauguration right -- night mcconnell and the rest of the republicans never worked with the last point, the young man ca

host: cori on our independent line -- cory on our independent line.ler: thank you for taking my call. in the weapons are second amendment for countries. only one nation has used it another, united states. for others, it is an insurance policy against aggression. that is it. guest: i have never heard it put like that. for a lot of nations, they believe it is an insurance policy against an invasion by their neighbors or deterrence -- or a deterrence for bad guys in their neighborhood. i guess it is not a crazy way to put it. i would not have done so. [laughter] that is the problem for us. countries look at nuclear weapons programs and say to theselves, because of message the international committee has sent, it is in our interest to have these. it is in our interest to fly with international terms. one man gave him up. where is the? he is dead. the iranians kept it and they have a ton of money. for countries like north korea, who look to the international community and past deals for signaling, we have sent a lot of bad mixed messages. what do you think

independents, 202-748-8002.f you want to post on our social media channels, do so at c-span wj on twitter and on facebook. ro khanna posted a story related to this announcement yesterday talking about the midterm election strategy for the democrats, on the website. the democrats turning their message to the many scandals swirling around the trump administration, betting that bows to drain the swamp will bring voters to their side. deal"ansion of "a better which focused on kitchen table economic issues in lieu of the controversies surrounding the president, extending the message to include the anticorruption component the democrats are painting the administration and republican supporters on capitol hill as an and scribbles group using power to pad its own pockets. the democrats promising that they can be an alternative, a party that will clean the place up. it was on capitol hill where the democrats made this announcement, when it comes to the new strategy. part of that announcement coming from the senate minori

i am independent.appened in the trunk completelys disturbing given the fact that there was discourse between "bernie bros." and establishment democrats. i think the current discourse between progressive democrats, establishment democrats, will result in an absolute wonder of the 2018 election, and i think of democrats do not get themselves together, trump is going to pull out all of the seee initi that you the media right now are not going to work and they will have one coherent voice. i do not think it will be as close as people expect. host: whose fault will it be? know, honestly, i believe, the united states requires a bit of honesty within the rule of law. i think it will be the democratic -- unfortunately, the democratic establishment's fault. a bit of honesty, i think of it , you know, we have to work together for some long-term progressive goals in this country, including technology, because right now, trump is honestly -- he has an entire country confused, right? i think actually we are working

saying that you don't reckon that the independent independent is going to do that well but this change is needed your responses want to maintain well i think that you know i don't i don't disagree that there's an opportunity for a change i think we are living in change right now i think the independents are having a big influence on this election because of the issues they're raising the way they're campaigning for example we're seeing independents at a trash dump with masks on campaigning whereas we're seeing how do you for example the political elite you know throwing big parties lavish parties giving away free gifts. just a lot of you know actually abusing the public spaces abusing animals even you know just kind of taking over the spaces putting their posters everywhere and so there's a real interesting contrast that's being drawn between the traditional campaigning and the new campaign which focuses on issues and not just plastering your face everywhere or something they have to vote for you out of fear so i am i am optimistic i think in the long run but i think we have to be real

structures have been completely dissolved it was a sion violently campaigned for sixty years for an independent basque state between northern spain and southern france at or killed more than eight hundred people between one hundred sixty eight and twenty ten before declaring a ceasefire a year later the u.k.'s prime minister is facing a revolt from within her own party on brics it which could potentially bring down her government a group of around sixty euro skeptic m.p.'s from tourism a's ruling conservative party spoken out against her favored plan for a customs partnership with the e.u. post bricks it. and alarming new report says air pollution is killing seven million people globally each year and the problem is still on the rise the world health organization is also warning that the inequality between the world's rich and poor is widening there's headlines to stay with us next up is the stream more news for you after that. welcome to the stream live on al-jazeera and you tube i'm femi oke a how old were you when you cast your first election vote eighteen nineteen maybe even your early twen

the snp are now suggesting a more cautious approach to independence economics.h possibly less inspiring as a result. sarah smith, bbc news, edinburgh. a bbc investigation has found that british men are increasingly being targeted by sextortion gangs in africa. the criminals trick their victims into filming sexual activity online and then blackmail them. experts say that ivory coast in west africa has become a hotspot for the gangs. the number of cases reported to police in the uk has more than tripled in the last three years, as angus crawford reports. how scared were you at the time? oh...frozen. meet adrian — once a victim of sextortion, now warning others about the risk. it's very, very suspicious. we set up a fake facebook profile. out of the blue, we get a friend request. i'm asking, "where are you from?" she is very pretty, flirty — in her own words, naughty. the scam develops in minutes, live in front of our eyes. so you are probably moments away from being scammed. yeah, literally minutes away. the trap set, she's keen to move from facebook to skype. now

in 2014, the uk government ruled out a currency union with an independent scotland. sharing the pound with an independent scotland. now the snp cannot stop scotland simply using the pound. of course we can use the pound. a few seconds ago admitted we could use the pound anyway. have they sold their currency conundrum? what we have seen today is modelled. we will use the currency of another country, without a central bank, and then at some indeterminate point in then at some indeterminate point in the future we will shift to something else but we won't tell you what that is and we won't tell you the steps in between. craft brewing is exactly the sort of growing industry and independent scotland would want to see fried. it would be something to know that an independent scotland would continue to use the pound, just because i feel changing the currency would complicate transactions. there will a lwa ys complicate transactions. there will always be the possibility of a new scottish currency around the corner. if we have to worry about different currencies and another lay

host: cori on our independent line -- cory on our independent line. caller: thank you for taking my call. in the weapons are second amendment for countries. only one nation has used it another, united states. for others, it is an insurance policy against aggression. that is it. guest: i have never heard it put like that. for a lot of nations, they believe it is an insurance policy against an invasion by their neighbors or deterrence -- or a deterrence for bad guys in their neighborhood. i guess it is not a crazy way to put it. i would not have done so. [laughter] that is the problem for us. countries look at nuclear weapons programs and say to theselves, because of message the international committee has sent, it is in our interest to have these. it is in our interest to fly with international terms. one man gave him up. where is the? he is dead. the iranians kept it and they have a ton of money. for countries like north korea, who look to the international community and past deals for signaling, we have sent a lot of bad mixed messages. what do you t

yes tkinter is a strong ally well jim on his a strong supporter of the independence of catalonia and today in his speech he insisted that you will work for the independence of that's along he also said that he's open to dialogue with the spanish government and the spanish government also said that it's open to dialogue within the framework of law and today are also asked for day for a mediation i asked the president of the european commission for mediation between spain and catalunya now the spanish press does regard him torah as carla's put demands poppet as it were is there any evidence of this at all anna. well although most of the pro unity parties most of the opposition parties in catalonia said giora is a puppet of belgium and because westwood's among who chose her oz their new candidate and it's important to mention also that the he chose can turn new candidate a big us he cannot be elected president because spain blocked him blocked from being elected under de interest said that he would the provisional president because that puts him on. to make president and also the opposi

for independents.ere is some democratic senators trying to build support through their twitter pages for this vote happening today. ron wyden with a tweet yesterday. the internet does not belong to big cable, ajit pai, and donald trump. make your voices heard to support our resolution that supports real net neutrality. ed markey of massachusetts saying just like water and electricity, you cannot live without broadband in the 21st century. we should treat it like a utility. that vote happening today. what is the outlook for that vote? guest: right now it looks poised to pass, but that is on the account of the absence of john mccain. requires 50e cra votes to pass. normally a simple majority of 51. with one senator absent or health reasons, that gives them enough to pass right now. they have the democratic caucus united behind it, 49 members. susan collins is the one republican who says she will back the measure. she does not think it's perfect, would prefer that congress work on bipartisan legislation t

back in 2014, the uk government ruled out a currency union with an independent scotland.t we could share the pound with an independent scotland. now the snp don't want a formal pact and said the uk cannot stop scotland simply using the pound. can't we use the pound anyway? of course we can use the pound. less than a few seconds ago he admitted we could use the pound anyway. so have they now solved their currency conundrum? i think what we've seen today is pretty muddled. we'll use another country's currency, without a central bank, without a formal link to them and then at some indeterminate point in the future, will shift to something else, but we're not telling you what that something else is. we're not telling you the steps in between. craft brewing is exactly the kind of growing industry and independent scotland would want to see thrive. it would be reassuring to know that an independent scotland would continue to use the pound, just because i feel like a change in currency would complicate transactions with the rest of the uk and the rest of the world. but there woul

they advocated for independence of ukraine from the u.s.s.r. and became an incubator for leaders of ukrainian nazis. in one thousand nine hundred one one of them new book founded svoboda an openly radical nationalist party preaching the good old principles of bondage era. per jew crane from the jews in russia ukraine for ukrainians and so on his statements got him fifth place in the simon vs and thought center top ten anti semitic world leader rankings of two thousand and twelve. it also sadly attracted numerous phone. dimitri are founded another extreme right organization treason or trident in one thousand nine hundred four. in april two thousand and thirteen became an assistant to a member of parliament from the opposition party who died. later that same year he would become the leader of the most radical ukrainian nazi group the right sector. laundry paro be would soon appear leading a whole army of ultra nationalist warriors. in the torch marches would once again light up the streets of ukrainian cities. with. the world drastically changed

just victory fearing another independence plus what is much reid's next move and what does it all mean for europe i ask spain's former foreign minister may get a statement acting us. reeling from the catalan secession catastrophe madrid is watching over the rest of the province where independence voice is still ringing loud despite a crackdown on separatist leaders with a new kind of government continue on a course of confrontation can the spanish prime minister afford to restore catalan autonomy and how does the standoff impact on the rest of europe. he lashing latinas thank you very much for being our guest today it's a pleasure well it's a pleasure of mine all right so want to start with castle any happy because it's back in the spotlight again new catalan leader mr toure eyes very pro independence and he offered dialogue to spend his prime minister he wants moderate to return the autonomy to stop direct rule of prominence i mean what are the chances are this is spam it would be oh we're always a spain. i mean we're very. big system in spain but they clearly have had it out of state

do you think of yourself as an independent contractor or employee? >> well i'd like to think i'mn independent contractor but we're being treating less than the employees. that's not requiring them to contribute their fair share contributiono the worker-safety net and that's not fair, just of equitable. >> so , would you take legal acrion and challenge y status as a contractor and try to get employee status? >> of course. it em powerfulings us to unite and speak up for our rights. >> and, sam how are the companies responding? >> well, since the againingll thes companies have said that they're platforms. uberhas always said we're not in the platform we connect our drivers. i -- trying the service rep for elves. >> i wonder if going back to whur point, edward about driving for uber, do you do that? do you enjoy the freedom? the work? >> well, i think there's this phony treatment that' bein sold to the public that the drivers are able to earn a living. i look at it as earning a surviving and that's whe it's gone to. i started driving four years ago and s

won more of the independent vote than the republican. the redistricting lines couldn't have caused that to happen. that happened because of the views of those voters and the strength of that candidate. >> as a general matter in gerrymandering cases, do you have a theory how are you're supposed to take independents into account. >> well, what about the people that aren't a part of a major party. if they don't enter into the calculus for this first amendment retaliation, presu presuming they're retal yated dependence-- >> isn't it a matter of fact, most independents tend to lean strongly one way 0 over the other over many election cycles? >> well, i've heard analysts call them the angry white vote. >> i don't know that they were anything in particular, just people who call themselves independents and who in fact are not members of a political party, you know, tend to-- not all of them, but many of them tend to vote pretty consistently one way and this is why, when map makers do their map making, they look not only to party registration, th