let's get back into it with the panel, inez stepman, dave smith and kevin walling sprayed the w is forain. inez, boycotts are up. i don't boycott because i don't have time to keep lists of what i am supposed to boycotts. whether it's in beans or starbucks or sporting good stores. people get so mad that you're going to boycott yourself into a corner part are we really that polarized? >> increasingly brp that logical endpoint of this is every single interaction our lives we have with other human beings we have to filter through the lens of politics. we now have online battle between my pillow and the david hogg pillow productive question the politics of whoever makes her pillows. when has reached that level of absurdity, there's a deeper problem here. we don't have the same kind of 30,000 foot underlining committed to 7076 to free speech. to a small liberal tolerance. this exhibit under attack. when those things so you have no more space for us to have fun or do things that make us like each other as fellow human beings. we just go straight into bare knuckle politics all of the time. sew

the party panel has returned, matt welch, inez stepman, and richard fowler.ard lisette i would start with you and i'm going to. what does it tell you if the president's council quit just about a week before the second the impeachment trial is to begin? [laughter] there looking good they don't need help? >> yeah, the president might come and defend himself who knows. one of the reasons is the president wanted them to continue to defend this lie there's a mensa voter fraud across the country but that is why he lost the election pretty was a major fraud even otherwise no fraud, there was no evidence, there's no evidence found produced tutor lawyers who will likely take the easier course in defending them saying that impeaching a present that's the longer it officer might be some constitutionality to it either way i don't think it's going to matter much. it seems as though senate republicans are lockstep with this president and they will likely vote not to convict in them not senators at join with democrats. think they get answers to why the president incited a r

>> independent policy analysts inez stepman. something similar that started in japan, called the grass eaters. as a consequence their economy is falling apart. their birth rate collapsed. they're no longer a economic juggernaut. we can see what happened here. it is amazing to me. go through some of the thoughts. you thought about this, where we could be heading. >> well i think this really goes to the heart of the question whether what's ailing us is sort of cultural or directly economic. i think there are both elements here. one of course that we have lost manufacturing jobs and more fundamentally, we have made it extremely difficult to succeed in the american economy without a college degree. we see that across the -- part of the reason that is the case is of course because the taxpayer heavily, heavily subsidizes going to university and at the expense of routes of success that might not require a college degree. what we see, women acquire more college degrees than men. i think this is sort of a chicken and egg cultural issue a