host: we are joined by john dickens here to talk about the gao report on infections and infection control in nursing homes across the states. what prompted the report? was it driven by the covid response? guest: the covid issues have highlighted infection prevention and control. the gao oversight of the federal response as well as a request from the ranking minority member of the finance committee gao conducted a review of looking at what the issues were in nursing homes in terms of finding deficiencies, prevention, and control prior to the pandemic. what the history has been in terms of what has been reported to hhs. host: here are some of the top line data out of that report. tor 13,000 homes from 2013 2017 were cited with citations. deficient. nearly all of the deficiencies are by state surveyors as "not severe." enforcement actions were only taken for 1% of these deficiency. deficiencies. who is responsible for monitoring infection issues and other health issues in nursing homes? guest: this is a joint issue. homes are meeting the standards and if there are there is a vote for them to

report on infections and infection control in nursing homes across the united states. john dicken, what prompted the report? was it driven by the covid response? guest: certainly the covid issues have highlighted concerns about infection prevention and control in nursing homes. both as part of the g.a.o.'s broader overseist federal response to the covid pandemic, as well as a request from the ranking minority member of senator widen of the finance committee in the senate. g.a.o. conducted a review of looking at what the issues were in nursing homes in terms of finding deficiencies and infection prevention and control prior to the pandemic, what the history has been in terms of what's been reported to h.h.s. host: and here's some of the top-line data out of that report from the g.a.o. over 13,000 homes from 2013 to 2017 were cited with infection prevention issues in one or more years. 6,300 -- over 6,300 homes had multiple consecutive years of citations for deficiencies, and the g.a.o. report says nearly all deficiencies were classified by state surveyers as not severe.

, it may be that you're going to have dental units in which you have all the strict kind of infection controls so that the person who lives in the nursing home or who is otherwise at risk can go to the dentist and know that they won't be infected. that's going to be a lot of kind of how do we prove that sort of thing. we'll work it out. we'll work it out. dentists are great at this. dentists are incredibly detail oriented, so we will work it out but it is something we have to think through. >> something you been on the forefront of is pushing the idea of immunity registries, and you had an opinion piece in the "wall street journal" where you said the young will reopen america. tell us about your big idea. >> yeah, so it should be more properly, yeah, immunity registry at work. that people who are paying the highest price relative to the risk of applications from covid-19 are the young -- complications. if a five-year-old is not not attending school, she's only five once in her life. her mind is a sponge. she hears a word, a foreign language word, in context, knows the definition, without the d

go only to infection control. there's still a lot that happens in a nursing home that requires oversight and regulation and vigilance really. i think we have to do everything. we have to focus intensively on infection control now. we also have to do other oversight, but in a case where you're trying to mitigate or reduce the likelihood of a covid-19 spread, we need those search team spirit we need the new dollars. sometimes in the facility they may want to separate people they physically can't expand or retrofit the facility to do that. we need to give them the help they need. i'm proposing $20 billion in this bill. >> senator casey count as a sacred but i can't let you go without asking you one question about your fellow scranton native joe biden. pennsylvania is probably the key to sandra biden, vice president biden becoming president. what is the outlook for pennsylvania, vice president biden will win pennsylvania if, what? >> i think he will win pennsylvania, and believe he will. i think he will win it if he c

we are learning from those results to design infection—control programmes for the future.urveys. every now and again it will see a blip in the number of test done when we do a lot of tests for a survey, whether for the office for national statistics or one of the other imperial college surveys. those are the three priorities for testing but we are using a good proportion of the test, and there are of course the antibody tests which are being rolled out personally for health and care staff to understand how the infection has spread. can i come back on your answer, secretary of state? there were forecast published by members of the sage, neil ferguson for example, and he said today that the uk have been much more heavily affected by the buyer was than expected so i wondered if there was any analysis going on —— by the virus. and if you could share as to why that might be and how we could avoid if there was a second peak or a future epidemic, those same things happening again? it's undoubtedly true that we have had a very significant impact from this virus. there is no doubt

these are essential, basic infection prevention and control requirements for covid, for any infectione been around for years. this is the number one violation cited in nursing homes. >> thank you. mr. chairman, can i say this? before i sign off. thank you, ms. edelman. mr. chairman, can i just make one more comment before i sign off? >> yes. go right ahead. >> if there are reports and oversight where the cms is coordinating oversight with the states, with the individual states, so each of these homes -- each of these nursing homes gets a report card. what has been done with these report cards? where are they? how have they been acted upon? want to know -- i want to know within the next week from cms, give us what you've done about these report cards, or else every one of you should be fired from the top to the bottom. i've had relatives that have been killed in these nursing homes, and i am not going to leave this alone, mr. chairman. and you should not either. thank you. >> thank you very much. mr. davis. what about what he was talking about? >> thank you very much mr. chairman for t

we have also strengthened infection control and ca re strengthened infection control and care homes andwith the social care sector on how this approach can apply appropriately to social care too. it is about protecting the nhs and social care, which means protecting our collea g u es which means protecting our colleagues who work in the nhs and in social care. they want to say this to all of my colleagues in health and social care. as we get this virus under control, it is so important that we stamp out new infections and outbreaks. and, of course, in health and care, you do this brilliantly all the time. coronavirus is no exception. that means that if one of your team tests positive, you have to follow the isolation and advice. the national imports of anyone —— impulse of anyone who works in the nhs is the thing that you can best do is be there to help, to be there for the patient. but if you have the virus, 01’ patient. but if you have the virus, orare at patient. but if you have the virus, or are at risk of having the virus, the best thing that you can do for them, it's himself, is t

cms required facilities to have infection control in place. had our infection controls in place. wille i came to congress, i served in a board where we would evaluate best practices among those in our community taking care of people. we need to take a look at nursing homes and see what succeeded with infection control. so this is the path forward. fingers and come up with solutions to make sure that we are addressing problems as a nation that affects everyone. there are things congress should do. gould -- whatmrs. do you think congress should do in order to improve the quality of the poor performing nursing homes? and i yield back. rep. neal: i am not sure she heard. her givehe will let her answer for the record, and i will call on mr. beyer. rep. beyer: thank you all for this important hearing. when this first cut our attention, it was back in february, and we knew at the time it was likely going to disproportionately affect older adults. tingere having trouble get young people taking it seriously. it was not until mid-may that cms required data collection in nursing homes. we w

then a discussion about the gao's new report on confection -- infection control problems in nursing homes, with john dickens. watch c-span's washington journal, live, at 7:00 eastern monday morning. join the discussion. governor polis of colorado, and asa hutchinson of arkansas testified before house subcommittee on how their states are responding to the coronavirus pandemic. watch live tuesday at 11:30 a.m. eastern on c-span. online at c-span.org, or listen live on the free c-span radio app. sunday morning, the spacex dragon crew arrived at the international space station. here's a look at the capsule docking with the iss. two crews greeting each other, and taking questions from officials at the kennedy space center.

with local flareups, it is right that we have a localised solution in terms of infection control, social distancing, testing. prime minister borisjohnson sets out his plans to build his way to economic recovery from the coronavirus pandemic. the uk's top civil servant is stepping down ahead of a major reorganisation of whitehall. poland's presidential election heads to second round as the incumbent, andrzej duda, fails to win an outright majority. and we'll be taking an in—depth look at the papers with our reviewers — the writer and broadcaster dawn foster, and deputy editor at city am, andy silvester. do stay with us for that. hello and welcome if you're watching in the uk or around the world, and stay with us for the latest news and analysis from here and across the globe. as global infections from coronavirus pass 10 million, a leading scientist advising the british government says the uk is "on a knife edge" in the pandemic, and he expects a rise in cases in the coming weeks. professor sirjeremy farrar, who's a member of the government's sage advisory committee, also told the bbc he

with local flare—ups, it's right that we have a localised solution in terms of infection control, socialistancing, testing. uk prime minister borisjohnson sets out his plans to build his way to economic recovery from the coronavirus pandemic. the cabinet secretary, sir mark sedwell, is to step down as the government's most senior civil servant. more details will be revealed on the easing of nonessential travel restrictions, for many popular european holiday destinations. and in half an hour, justin rowlatt catches up with young environmentalist greta thunberg for her first major interview since lockdown began. as global infections from coronavirus pass ten million, a leading scientist advising number ten says the uk is "on a knife edge" in the pandemic, and he expects a rise cases in the coming weeks. professor sirjeremy farrar, who's a member of the government's sage advisory committee, also told the bbc, he also expects a second wave of infections in the winter. the latest figures show that in the last 2a hour period 36 more people died, having contracted the virus in the uk. that take

well because with local flare—ups it is right that we have a localised solution in terms of infection controln the public health england space that will come together to control the virus and to stop the spread so that we can get on top of the infection. the mayor of leicester, peter soulsby, said more data was needed on how the outbreak was developing in the city. i spoke to the health secretary, what, ten days ago now, and have subsequently had a number of discussions with the chief medical officer and others and have consistently said to them that we need the data. we, and you, need to know what is happening on the ground in leicester and it's not helpful, really, just to talk about outbreaks or to suggest that there needs to be a citywide lockdown. we need to know what the real situation is on the ground here in our city and only then, together with the government, can we decide what intervention is needed. two illegal street parties have been broken up by police during another night of unlawful gatherings in london. dispersal zones were put in place in clapham common and tooting bec comm

said facilities that followed federal infection control guidelines were largely able to contain and control the virus the c.m.s. reports that facilities with a one star quality rating were more likely to have large numbers of covert 1000 cases than facilities with a 5 star rating adding that c.m.s. will take an foresman against nursing homes that have not reported data into the c.d.c. the centers for disease control and prevention burma said if states do not complete the required facility checks by july 31st they may risk losing federal recovery funding there also still remains contention about whether many nursing homes and assisted living facilities are receiving enough covert 1000 testing kits and sufficient protective gear as that blame game continues the bottom line is people's lives still remain at risk and many of these facilities as the number of coronavirus cases continues to climb in some of the poorest rated states for nursing home care in the united states for our t.v. john honey. i mean if covert is done anything that has exposed how lacking we are in so many areas of infrastru

of the virus a report by the center of medicare advocacy found that 5724 surveys cited infection control deficiencies in 163 nursing facilities in 30 states and only a little more than half of the nursing homes in the u.s. had received inspections florida texas california and ohio had some of the worst infection rates act nursing homes in the country parent florida there are reports of new clusters of corona virus infections at nursing homes with recent inspections turning up alarming conditions at some of these facilities as the state continues to reopen. the miami herald reports about one facility in the florida keys that's become a cluster for corona virus cases and quote received a 2nd critical report in as many months detailing deficiencies that include understaffing inadequate care and isolation for kovan 1000 patients and unsanitary conditions that could promote the spread of the disease that's only one example but there are plenty more nationwide seam of her mother head of the centers for medicare medicaid services or c.m.s. said facilities that followed federal infection control

said facilities that followed federal infection control guidelines were largely able to contain and control the virus the c.m.s. reports that facilities with a one star quality rating were more likely to have large numbers of covert 1000 cases than facilities with a 5 star rating adding that c.m.s. will take an foresman against nursing homes that have not reported data into the c.d.c. the centers for disease control and prevention perma said if states do not complete the required facility checks by july 31st they may risk losing federal recovery funding there are also still remains contention about whether many nursing homes and assisted living facilities are receiving enough covert 1000 testing kits and sufficient protective gear as that blame game continues the bottom line is people's lives still remain at risk and many of these facilities as the number of coronavirus cases continues to climb in some of the poorest rated. states for nursing home care in united states for our drawn hoodie. and over to france now where a health workers protest turned violent french police fired tear gas in

gao's new report on confection -- infection control problems in nursing homes, with john dickens. watch c-span's washington journal, live, at 7:00 eastern monday morning. join the discussion. governor polis of colorado, and asa hutchinson of arkansas testified before house subcommittee on how their states are responding to the coronavirus pandemic. watch live tuesday at 11:30 a.m. eastern on c-span. online at c-span.org, or listen live on the free c-span radio app. sunday morning, the spacex dragon crew arrived at the international space station. here's a look at the capsule docking with the iss. two crews greeting each other, and taking questions from officials at the kennedy space center. >> well, we're just 60 meters away. we should get there in just over two minutes. meanwhile, teams in hawthorne and in houston doing their internal go and no fold. once it's go, we'll get the dragon autonomously fly in, doc with the international spay station. just about one minute and 45 seconds. at this point it will be 20 meters away at the international dock. number two attached, meeting ad

even able to come into the mortuary to be there with the body of their loved one because of infection control bea reasons and i think there is going to be a huge amount of emotional trauma that comes out of the back of covid because people have and be able to process the deaths of their loved one. some of the staff are struggling coming in, and finding that their lift list of ten, 15 patients is only two alive, after literally one night. there is a real issue in palliative minute medicine with emotional burnout between do what we can to give people is comfortable and normal death as possible but this a completely abnormal situation. i do think in the uk we are quite resistant talking about death, potentially something this awful pandemic will do is making people much more aware of their own mortality, making it much more acceptable to be talking about. when we are scared, the first instinct is to turn your face away from what is scaring you. i think it's not a time to be doing that. i think it's a time to connect, conveyors and just be clear about what's important. this too will end and we wi

the who issued technical guidance on infection control on the zist guidance on infection control on theat the scottish government has issued from the 13th of march, which we updated on the 26th of march and then updated again i think 26th of march and then updated again ithink in 26th of march and then updated again i think in may, has been consistent with the guidance, the technical guidance that the who has set out and we will continue to make sure that we adapt our approaches as any evidence and advice that comes from authorities like that change in the future. so we will continue to take the careful and considered steps that we are taking. we will not shy away from the challenges that we face in the unprecedented situation we are dealing with. but the scottish government will continue to ta ke scottish government will continue to take that careful, cautious approach, making sure that we, as we have done, build up our testing capacity but also crucially used testing in a way that is clinically driven. and that is the responsibility i take seriously and will continue to do so. nicola

with local flare—ups, it's right that we have a localised solution in terms of infection control, social minister borisjohnson sets out his plans to build his way to economic recovery from the coronavirus pandemic. more details will be revealed on the easing of non—essential travel restrictions for many popular european holiday destinations.

carlson, why are infection-control problems so pervasive in nursing homes? >> one thing to note, in talking about deficiencies, is that the system, generally, records them as no harm. they don't result in any meaningful penalty, whatsoever. and that allows, in situations like those cited by the gao, for these violations to continue, year after year after year. there needs to be some meaningful enforcement so we don't just look at the report and say this is happening every year. but we're able to go and say this can't happen every year. it just -- we can't -- we can't let this happen. obviously, the consequences just -- just can't be tolerated. >> yeah. well, in your opinion, if cms had taken enforcement standards at nursing homes more seriously, could we have averted some of the devastation we are seeing at nursing homes? >> that's part of it. obviously, this discussion illustrates a lot of -- a lot of variables here. but better infection prevention. better staffing. those are certainly big pieces of -- of the problem or big pieces of the solution. if -- if

with local ups, it is right that we have a localised solution in terms of infection control, distancingg. uk prime minister borisjohnson sets out his plans to build his way to economic recovery from the coronavirus pandemic. more details will be revealed on the easing of non—essential travel restrictions, for many popular european holiday destinations. time for us to us to catch up with some sport. hello and welcome to sportsday. i'm chetan pathak. the late show — drama at bramall lane as arsenal score in stoppage time to reach the semi finals of the fa cup. danny ings at it again in the premier league — to leave watford in trouble. and job done for dan evans who wins tennis‘ battle of the brits. hello and welcome to sportsday. you can say what you want about arsenal in the premier league, but they have a habit of delivering in the fa cup and they've done it again. the is—time winners are into the semi finals after a late goalfrom dani ceballos won the game at sheffield united. adam wild reports. an empty silent bramall lane just moments before kick—off. the fabled magic of the fa cup i

these are three of our infection control policies. all the revisions are related to the laguna honda hospital's covid-19 response and wanting to update our policies in line with the protocols we have put in place with the facilities. there are three departmental policies from nursing. these are related to epic workflows. the department has updated workflows. the rehabilitation has one policy up for revision and this is in terms of their commission to medi-cal. >> secretary: do we have any public comment for this item? >> we do not. >> secretary: any questions, commissioners? okay. >> president bernal: do we have a motion to approve? >> vice president green: so moved. >> president bernal: is there a second? >> second. >> president bernal: yes. >> vice president green: yes. >> commissioner chow: yes. >> commissioner chung: (no response). >> secretary: commissioner chung? >> president bernal: commission. >> secretary: let me make sure she had no trouble with kexese connections. i'm going to give her a call. please hold, everyone. please

with local flare—ups, it is right that we have a localised solution in terms of infection control, socialistancing, testing. borisjohnson sets out his plans to build his way to economic recovery from the coronavirus pandemic. the cabinet secretary, sir mark sedwill, is to step down as the government's most senior civil servant. more details will be revealed on the easing of non—essential travel restrictions for many popular european holiday destinations. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the writer and broadcaster dawn foster and andy silvester, deputy editor at city am tomorrow's front pages, starting with... the front page of the metro features a warning from a scientific adviser to the government that the uk could face a severe second wave of coronavirus as lockdown measures ease in england. the times leads with the prime minister's announcement of extra funding for schools in what he calls his aim for every pupil to "succeed". the ft reports on the stepping down of the government's most senior civil servant, cabinet secret

so, afterany infection, particularly virus infections, the body will generate these antibodies that act to ensure that the virus is controlleds does not take hold in the individual, or perhaps that the disease is a lot milder the second time round. i should say that antibodies are not the only way that the body's immune system works. there are other mechanisms for combating viruses and there is a whole host of science around cellular immunity, so how cells response, notjust cellular immunity, so how cells response, not just antibodies which are proteins. but the important question here is we can measure antibodies and indeed we are now measuring antibodies, so we are getting a sense of how many people have developed antibodies in response to the virus, and a key question is, does that antibody response, does that positive test mean that there is immunity in the future? it will only be time and studies over time that tell us the answers to that question but those studies are under way. for example, in the health service in the nhs public health england have launched a study called siren, which is recruiting health care staff

a new reportcken, just issued on infection control and prevention in nursing homes ac >> we are waiting for a briefing with the governor of california, gavin newsom. he's expected to talk about the protests in his state following the death of george floyd and california's response to the coronavirus pandemic. while we wait for the governor, we have the segment from this morning's "washington journal." 's leadership in this time of unrest and civil disturbance. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8002 for independents. the president tweeted this morning about a half-hour ago, "sleepy joe biden's people are so radical left they are working to get the anarchists out of jail, and probably more. joe is clueless, but they will be the real power. we will be calling the shots. big tax increases for all, plus." the headline in usa today -- or the hill. alex bolton -- that is the wrong piece. i thought i had the other one. "strife turns the heat upon trump, the greatest civil unrest piling pressure on a president who has exploited america's divisions. protests

host: we are joined by john dickens here to talk about the gao report on infections and infection control in nursing homes across the states. what prompted the report? was it driven by the covid response? guest: the covid issues have highlighted infection prevention an

we actually issued on march 17 to most of the states guidance on infection control and care for the elderlyon, as the president said yesterday, we need to get to the bottom of what happened, particularly when it comes to the thousands and thousands of senior citizens across the country who are not served well. liz: what did the democratic governors do wrong, gavin newsom, andrew cuomo, phil murphy, gretchen whitmer, tom wolf, republican steve scalise and jim jordan said you have to get back by june 18, we know about cuomo's march 25 order say nursing homes, you have to take back in recovering covid-19 patients, the nursing homes could not test them treated for covid-19 to see if they were infected again was so contagious, what else did they do wrong? >> i think what they did wrong they did not have the proper procedures in place and i cannot speak to all the conditions across the country but what i've seen particularly in state ru run -- veteran nursing homes where we went in to help the states with their state veteran population, things like infection control and separating sick patients f

we have been welcomed as experts in geriatric care and infection control. >> thank you. dr. stone. and thank you, dr. roe. we are on the same page as it regards this, i think national focus. let me just say, before i call ms. brownlee, as friendly a manner as i can say, we are an old democracy. the british parliament is known as the mother of all parliaments and it has made accommodations to deal with the virus, namely much of its proceedings go forward without all of its members present. our own supreme court has conducted in an extraordinary fashion hearings, supreme court hearings, and questioning periods without -- on a virtual basis. we must recognize science and that has to impact the institution and how we adapt our proceedings accordingly. now, ms. brownlee, as i call on you, please remember to pause for two or three seconds, and i recognize you now for five minutes. oh, ms. brownlee is -- let me then go to -- ms. rice. ms. rice, if you are there, please unmute, and pause for two or three seconds before you begin your line of questioning. >> great, thank you. sorry. i think

we actually issued on march 17th to most of the states guidance on things like infection control andfelt that was an important part of our duties for the nation but as the president said yesterday, we need to get to the bottom of what happened, particularly when it comes to those thousands and thousands of senior citizens across the country who were not served well. elizabeth: what do the democrat governors do wrong? they are again gavin newsom, andrew cuomo, phil murphy, gretchen whitmer, tom wolf, republican steve scalise and jim jordan you have to get back to us by june 18th. we know about governor cuomo's march 25th order, nursing homes you have to take back in recovering covid-19 patients. the nursing homes could not even test those treated for covid-19 to see if they were infected again or still contagious. what else did they do wrong? >> well i think what they did wrong they didn't have the proper procedures in place and i can't speak to all of the conditions across the country but what i've seen, particularly in state-run, veterans nursing homes where we actually went in to h

with local flare—ups, it's right that we have a localised solution in terms of infection control, socialistancing, testing. uk prime minister borisjohnson sets out his plans to build his way to economic recovery from the coronavirus pandemic. more details will be revealed on the easing of non—essential travel restrictions for many popular european holiday destinations. and arsenal leaves it late to book their place in the fa cup semifinals. we'll have that and chelsea's win over leicester in sportsday. the uk's top civil servant, sir mark sedwill, has confirmed he plans to stand down from the role in september. his exit follows reports of tensions between him and senior members of boris johnson's team. his other role as national security adviser will be taken by mrjohnson‘s chief brexit adviser, david frost. in a letter to the prime minister, sir mark said, "two years ago, when my predecessor fell ill, your predecessor asked me to step in as cabinet secretary, and you asked me to continue to support you through brexit and the election period." he went on... i'm joined by lord o'donnell,

but as you mentioned a recent gao study found quote infection control deficiencies were widespread inocess in nursing homes prior to the covid-19 pandemic. as you mentioned, gao found 82% nursing homes have been cited for infection control and prevention violations over the past several years. so mr. carlson, why are they still pervasive in nursing homes? >> one thing to note in talking about deficiencies is that the system generally records them as no harm, don't result in any meaningful penalty whatsoever. that allows in situations like those cited by the gao for these violations to continue year after year after year. there needs to be some meaningful enforcement so we don't just look at the report and say -- [inaudible] but we are able to and say this can't happen every year. we just can't let this happen. obviously the consequences just can't be tolerated. >> if cms has taken federal standard nursing homes or services before and during the pandemic could we have uploaded some of the devastation we're seeing an nursing homes? >> that's sort of part of it. there's this discussion,

with care homes to make sure that they have the staff that are trained appropriately in infection prevention and controlselves, as well as the additional resources that have come from the 600 million infection prevention and control fund to help support the work force cost of covering care home safely. so i think so i think the point about this is that it is the totality of those measures that make a difference, now was already great work taking place at local level, i have heard about it up and down the country. the point about this virus is that it is open issues that we need to put everything in place all at once, right and consistently across the country, and that is the task for the task force on the wider network of health and care services. thanks very much, hugh. paul brand from itv. we have been filming today in sorry with families who have moved in with their loved ones full—time because they are so afraid of the risk of covid—19 in care. can you honestly tell people tonight that it you honestly tell people tonight thatitis you honestly tell people tonight that it is honestly safe to send thei

the government has allocated £600 million towards helping care providers cover the costs of infection control meanwhile the government had been expected to announce this morning whether it's met its target of testing all residents and staff in elderly care homes in england for covid—19 by earlyjune. that's not going to happen today. bbc news understands that testing kits have been sent to most homes, but one group of providers says hundreds of results have gone missing, and others argue that repeated testing is needed to curb the spread of the virus. the department of health and social care says an announcement on testing will be made in the coming days. well, let's talk to simon blackburn, a ceo of the registered care providers association. thank you very much for talking to us. thank you very much for talking to us. couple of different issues there. let us talk first about the fees being charged to those who are being asked to those forced to fund their own care. is not something you have been concerned about? this is something we have been concerned about in the sector for over ten yea rs.

enhancing infection control. admiral giroir may want to comment on the commitment of nursing homes with protective equipment for a period of time. and we're continuing i think to have aggressive surveillance in the nursing homes in this country where we have recommended all residents get tested so that we can start with the clean baseline of understanding where the epidemic is. i will just end with the fact that although they only make .6% of the population nursing home residents have made up more than 35% of the mortality. >> let me very briefly. >> thank you. dr. fauci. >> about schools, we get asked that all the time. i think the important thing to point out is that as you well know we live in a very big country that is certainly not a unidimensional country. new york area or casper, wyoming, so when you ask about schools, you have to say where are you talking about. because we have different regions, different states, different cities, towns and counties. so some counties may have such a low level of infectio

he is discouraging the use of temperature screening has an infection control measure for the virus businesses have been using the practice to determine whether or not employees are sick leave looked at the airport screening for ebola for covid for other and we just. >>so that it wasn't particularly effective cle heads contra costa county's covid-19 operational response. he says temperatures screening can actually have negative consequences often temperatures screening is hurting. the person doing the screening. in close contact with the person is being screened. and so that slightly elevates the risk or those 2 individuals to be interacting with each other and potentially infect each other one of them is in fact this ble says since up to 60% of people testing positive for covid-19 are asymptomatic temperatures screening would be useless on someone who does not have a fever. >>he says medicine like tylenol and ibuprofen can also lower a person's body temperature distorting conditions for today lee says focused on screening for symptoms like coughing, shortness of breath, and the loss of taste

we need to keep infection control at the top of mind while we're also doing the right things when itomes to supporting social justice causes. >> dr. gupta, thank you for your expertise and your candor always. dr. vin gupta, our guest again tonight. >>> we promised our viewers we'd check in with the west coast. we've been watching the situation in seattle, but let's go to los angeles. gadi schwartz just outside city hall, gadi? >> reporter: yeah, that's right, brian. you can see there's still a very large, spirited crowd out here. they have been out here for over a week, and own though what happened is a half a country away, they are still demanding accountability. here at city hall, you can see this is the iconic city hall and concessions continue to be made here on the local level. in fact you've got police officers here tonight. there is no curfew and a much more relaxed environment. you've got police with no -- yesterday they were wearing riot helmets. today they're not wearing the riot heldme riot helmets. we should point out many of them are not wearing masks. some people in thi

even able to come into the mortuary to be there with the body of their loved one because of infection controlcomes out of the back of covid—19 because people haven't been able to process the deaths of their loved one. some of the staff are struggling to come in and find that their list of ten or 15 patients there is only two alive. after literally one night. there is a real issue in palliative medicine with emotional burn—out. we are doing what we can to give people as comfortable and as normal a death as possible, but this is a completely abnormal situation. we are learning as we go along. i do think in the uk we are quite resistant to talking about death, potentially something that this awful pandemic will do is making people much more aware of their own mortality and making it much more acceptable to be talking about. when we are scared, the first instinct is to turn your face away from what is scaring you and i don't think it is a time to be doing that. i think it is a time to connect, converse and just be clear about what is important. this too will end and we will come through this. we