they didn't want to put it there, so the conversation i had with her was infewurating staccato, we've got the permits, the wall's going up, and there's nothing you can do. >> okay. >> okay. we can have rebuttal from the permit holder. >> i hardly know what to say. that's not what i said, but i actually sympathize with her and listened to her in the conversation and i called her back that evening, and it was about 8:00 at night by the time we finished the conversation, so i told her -- i called her the next morning to arrange the time. any way, i just want to talk about some of the -- the -- well, you've heard from the building department, but the -- this is the -- this is the -- this is more correct what the actual condition is like. the adjacent properties, the top of the seal plate is adjacent because it happens, the same thing on the north side of the property, and we don't really know how deep the foundations go, except we know hers goes at least 3 feet down shall as they stated this kind of construction is very routine. the 2 inch slab on grade that's there is wrap proving, there