it by the length across it and you always end up with the same number. 3.1415 and on and on for infinity. pretty cool says university of chicago mathematician amy wilkinson. >> what we would call fundamental constant. it comes up in everything you do in mathematics. >> you can't get away from pi. >> you cannot escape pi. pi is always there. >> reporter: the massachusetts institute of technology put out this video, telling applicants they could log in on pi day

that car, a white infinity suv type vehicle. they are asking anyone with information on that to contact police. they are say processing of the crime scene could take another couple of hours. >>> now to a developing story this in the east bay, where a brutal dog attack as left one woman on life support. police say the 40-year-old was attacked just hours ago on silverado drive. emergency respondsers say the woman suffered serious wounds to her face arms, and legs. parmtsds to the fly the woman via helicopter to a trauma center in walnut creek. the dog is described as a family pet and has been captured. no details on the breed of the dog. we have a crew on the scene and will bring you more information as soon as it becomes available. >>> march is here and winter weather is hitting much of the country causing travel troubles for tens of thousands. first, this is a live look of the white house. what is blocking your view icicles on the camera. we can't complain about yesterday's hail. >> no. >> no, today about four inches of snow exp

this is part of the success of infinity and this is part of the heritage of where infinity started out in the u.s. >> okay and you come into this job with very substantial goals set by your parent company nissan. 500,000 vehicles is your sales target. when do you think you can achieve that? >> i've been asked this question many times before and my answer is the same. we will not go into the forecast but we will make sure that these cars are launched successfully and that we bring business success to infinity and our business partners and dealerships in the market. >> that was the president of infinity there talking about how they plan to really take a larger chunk of the luxury piece of the pie from audi bmi, mercedes. and we'll be speaking to the ceo coming up very shortly. they retained their position in the china at the moment and really trying to take on their other rivals in the u.s. we'll ask them about the strategy in the u.s. market coming up. >> before you go. before we let you go what's important for you in a car? >> it's funny, this huge push for technology and rolls royce c

police say an officer tried to pull over the driver of a white infinity that was possibly connected to another shooting last night. >> someone from inside the car then shot at the officer. and the officer was not injured and did return fire. however, police say the suspect was able to run from the scene. it is unclear if he was hit pay the officer's shots. now, they are cran vasting the area. they are going yard by yard to find the shooter. it is not clear if he is inside the police perimeter or hiding in the bush it is or someone's backyard: they are asking anyone in the area north of wifton avenue and soto road to stay inside their home. >> they are looking for one suspect, is that right? >> that is our understanding. at this point. i tried to ask the hayward sergeant if there is nor than one person inside the car. >> she said it all remains under investigation. it appears they are looking for one man this morning. >> that is mike pill ton reporting from the scene. >> there are major street close shires as mike mentioned. and it includes where win done turned into p street. >> now, t

and several infinity models. >> aa major discovery about mars. billions of years ago, it had an ocean. as large as earth's indian ocean. there was water covering 20% of the surface. that strengthens theories mars may have once sustain the life. -- sustained like. that stuff is fascinating to me. packs don't want to go up there, though. -- >> don't want to go up there though. we have a warm-up for the weekend. a lot of folks want to get the ice off the driveways. the sun will help big-time. good stuff. outside we go. plainly clear skies. allowing temperatures to drop. reagan national airport, 24 degrees. wind chill adding more chill at 20 degrees. keeping the wind down overnight. that will allow temperatures to cool off west of d.c.. 23 degrees below average for this time of year. 77 the record in 1951. sunset, 6:07. by monday evening, it will set at 7:08. moving ahead in terms of daylight savings time. don't forget to set your clocks early sunday morning. a record earlier today. originally had nine degrees career than they dropped to eight degree

continual timeline to infinity? that is where i think there is a big problem. and they also have two pieces of property. you don't have one piece property that -- transfer ownership -- every time they have this kind of where you have a permit, you can increase the price. i don't think it's proper to be a government policy that you get a permit, sell the property and increase the price. right now i'm kind of hoping that there is a with a that the city attorney can work with the board of supervisors -- i think when you sell a property, it should be the default that it no longer has all of these other agreements on the lien of the property. in this particular case, i would be hoping that the recreation and park department in light of this going on can we -- yes, sir -- can we as a body of people here in san francisco county, citizenry, can we try to eminent domain of this particular piece of property? do we have a strong enough supervisor as we had formally at northeast -- in chinatown, can we get that kind of leg work going? i hope so, because this kind of timeli

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. >> this is an infinity oh sorry about that t you should buy it immediately. >> it includes our northern trust program and all you still don't get p there. >> that 2 and a quarter seems for normal treasurer bill rate and usually cashew solar inform inflation in its return our long term inflation is two quarter and cash is basically made equal to that but that's definitely a long term assumption you know we're macon that and could be for awhile. >> okay. great thank you very much okay. i will now open up for public comment on the motion before the board everyone has spoken if you've shared your thoughts on the hedge funds at the beginning of the meeting there's no need to repeat our comments we're - but you have the absolute right if you choose to you. >> thank you, commissioners i want to say i appreciate the extensive discussions but one of the things this is the tail wagging the dog we're still upside down in the process and in experience as a commissioner on similar benefits board is a similar view by serving as a benefit board commissioner one of the things we'll do first before the

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also an infinity attack if it is necessary. >> let's hear now from a retired jordanian general he says that air strikes will just be the beginning of a much wider campaign. >> this campaign, it may have -- i may build for many many steps. the air raids and continues for days or sometimes weeks weeks until it acheers targets. w the air raids i think there is a real need to make a sea siege on the sea ports to pri represent any iranian ships which get to the houthies. i think it will be done and used by performed by the official cause to control some critical spots because there is a real need for using this special course. and after that if there is a need to send boots oven the ground, i think we have to make a new estimation to decide there will sent or not in my opinion i think there will not need initially but no one can be sure. whether they will be sent or not. >> a spokes man for the u.s. secretary general say that the security council supports the legitimacy, but says the council has also warned all partiesparties to refrain from actions which may undermine the integrity. and he

and hans solo has thousands taking the star wars theme to infiniti infiniti.ng for him in the hospital. >>> and world book tour is still trending. kids dressed up like their favorite book characters and j. waxt rawling tweeted, i was just reminded not to forget the best fans. >>> and a man is going viral for dressing up like christian gray with cable ties and is it fair for his school to exclude him, even though his teacher dressed up like dexter. and take a look at the selma march across the edmund pettus bridge. >> we are marching today to demonstrate to the nation and the world and those here have a right to vote. >> that was ed lewis. and today the petition to change the name of the bridge is going viral, because it was named after a ku klux klan member. >> and that is trending as it should be. >> and when we come back 50 years since the historic march. we'll going to talk to a civil rights leader. stick around. curling up in bed with a favorite book is nice. but i think women would rather curl up with their favorite man. but here's the thing: about half o

plus -- >> to infinity and beyond. >> and the dollar is about to go even higher. we'll tell you which sector in particular to avoid. >>> and why are traders suddenly betting on herbalife again? >> one big question tonight for investors. is big oil going to cut their big dividends? let's go to mike keir? >> well, it's interesting. if you look at what the options markets are implying right now, they are absolutely not forecasting the steady dividend growth that the oil companies are well known for. as you look out to next year, some of the big names are definitely looking like the options market think there could be a cut. that makes sense. let's look at exxon as an example. here's a company doing over $24 billion of free cash flow last year. probably about $2 billion this year. you see similar declines in bp. chevron this year, we're going to look at probably 9 billion in negative free cash flow. it's pretty hard to continue to the support dividends when you have cash flow that was once extremely positive turning very negative. specifically, let's look at bp. think

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. >>> and kicking cancer to infinity and beyond. that was the theme of this year's udance marathon. i don't know if vai sikahema could dance for that long. >> oh he could. >> the proceeds go to the andrew mcdunna foundation. >> they raised $13 million so far this year. good for those kids. you're watching "nbc 10 news today." "nbc 10 news today" at 6:00 a.m. starts right now. >>> some people in philadelphia's rhawnhurst neighborhood got a rude awakening this morning with shattered glass and something missing. >>> and we are off to a cold start with the wind kicking up to make it feel colder. it is 20 degrees outside. good morning this is "nbc 10 news today." i'm tracy davidson. >> i'm vai sikahema. we'll show you with a look outside. we'll go to nbc 10's bill henley with a first alert forecast. >>> spring is tough. we'll see cold temperatures this morning. we are in the 20s right now. and a little bit of a breeze to make it feel colder. but those are clear skies over the comcast center in center city. clear skies and dry conditions. that's when we get colder temperatures and we have

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we thought we had figured this out and we would scale this to infinity. little did we know what we did not know. we found ourselves underwater and all of a sudden, the site is going down. we are developing a reputation for the site going down. the worst and most stomach turning part in all of this is that we had these brilliant creators, people using tumblr to do remarkable things. using it as their home, for their incredible work. every time we screw up, we are taking their stuff off of the internet and out of the world. that was just, we thought, so unforgivable, so terrible. it was crushing for me and the team to be screwing up in that way. it was exacerbated by the fact that we had not built out the big, robust engineering team we needed at the time to get through to the other side. >> you started as a teenager. you go through these highs and lows. how did you develop your own personality and style as a leader? how hard was that? >> i've been really lucky to have some great investors and mentors from early on. i've had great partners with me to steer

it by the length across it, and you always end up with the same number. 3.1415, and on and on for infinity. pretty cool, says university of chicago mathematician amy wilkinson. >> what we would call fundamental constant. it comes up in everything you do in mathematics. >> you can't get away from pi. >> you cannot escape pi. pi is always there. >> reporter: the massachusetts institute of technology put out this video, telling applicants they could log in on pi day 3/14/15 at 9:26 to see if they were accepted. kids at new york's museum of mathematics count down to the moment of pi. of course, here in chicago, what would pi day be without deep dish? at my pi pizza, a slice and a drink today will cost you $3.14, of course. and our facebook friends are sending out all kinds of pi filler to show how they're celebrating. >> pi deserves a day. >> especially if it's pumpkin. >> reporter: so do the math, and have a slice. 3/14/15 won't come around again for another 100 years. kevin tibbles, nbc news, chicago. >>> when we come back, a swim team making waves in more ways than one. >>> we end tonight w

. >> reporter: investigators believe that that car, a white infinity suv, may have been involved in a shooting around 10:00 saturday night. they are asking anyone with information on that shooting to call police. they also say it may be a couple of more hours while they process the scene here in the neighborhood. reporting live in hayward, christie smith, nbc bay area news. >>> a pit bill viciously attacks a fwhom the east bay. the victim was flown to the hospital and is being treated there. police say the 40-year-old wam woman as attacked hours ago on civil raddo drive and suffered serious wounds to her face arms and legs. she was transported via helicopter to the trauma center in walnut creek. the dog has been described as the family fete and has been captured. we have a crew at the scene. we'll bring you the latest in a live report at 6:00. >> this just in new clues after a man allegedly exposes himself to a girl in paltdo. look at this sketch given to us by the palleta police department. officers say an 11-year-old girl was walking her dog when she noticed the man following her in

. >>> and kicking cancer to infinity and beyond.s the theme of this year's udance marathon where the marathon lasts for 12 hours. >> this organization that we raise money for helps kids whose families are helping them go through cancer. and it gives them financial support. >> and the delaware students raised more than $1.2 million for this year's event. congrats to em this. >>> a social media attack against a local star has cost one college athlete his spot on the team. next, the controversial tweet that got him booted and the about-face he posted afterwards. >>> and the high-tech reason that some teen drivers won't necessarily be alone behind the wheel. the passenger of course, that will be reporting back to parents. >>> the time is five minutes before 5:00. a controversial tweet was made by mo'ne davis. the bloomsburg player said he's a huge fan of mo'ne and she's an inspiration. >>> the supreme court is yet to hear an argument on specialty license plates bearing the confederate flag. the supreme court will decide if they can issu

permit, but i think it's chapter 31 administrative code -- do they have a continual timeline to infinity? that is where i think there is a big problem. and they also have two pieces of property. you don't have one piece property that -- transfer ownership -- every time they have this kind of where you have a permit, you can increase the price. i don't think it's proper to be a government policy that you get a permit, sell the property and increase the price. right now i'm kind of hoping that there is a with a that the city attorney can work with the

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one of the most disturbing elements for me was several of the men said look, we're not the only infinity that is doing this. we aren't the only guys committing these acts we are just the ones that happened to get cause. following that, some of them were convicted but there were no officers top command who were held accountability, can you assess the response of top command in terms of the kill team. >> you bring up some terrific points that was one of the most troubling aspects of the documentary, and the incident, the failure to hold commanders accountability, at least in a more transparent way, a way to send a message, there was a comprehensive investigation conducted specifically into command accountability, but when the soldiers who all faced similar pressures of malaise and frustration, when they are operating under restrictive rules where was the platoon leader where was the company commander, where wasluth and the captain when they were told when they would see a dead civilian and ask where's the weapon and suddenly the weapon would show up, they knew or should have known, and tha

. >> reporter: but guys that infinity of ardmore are looking into the bright side and above average february means they can stomach a daze like today, no problems. so, they will get ready for spring. and days like this. removing snow rather than, sell cars. >> the theme from both places, make the the best of it after all, mother nature never seems to care about bottom line. >> and so my very unofficial estimate here, we will get six to 8 inches or so here in ardmore. hopefully with temperatures raising next week in the 50's, hopefully, the snow will start to melt and that will make the the guys over at car dealer ship their job easier in terms of clearing out their lots. we are live from ardmore, matt rivers cbs-3 "eyewitness news". >> thank very much. >>> a lot of frustration in philadelphia international airport, lot of flights, delayed, or even canceled because of the storm. "eyewitness news" found several people who were stranded, in a terminal, and asleep. if you do have flight plans coming days or tonight even check with your airline before you head out. >>> well, moments of terror for

if you take zero and you use it to discount of the price of the comes infinity.going to go to infinity but we have extraordinary monetary policy throughout the world, throughout the world. it will continue and probably for a while because the ecb has committed itself to a year-and-a-half and sweden has now followed and others are following. it is extraordinary. manus: i look at a bloomberg story this morning from norway nigeria, assets at what point do you draw the line? david kotok: you don't try the line. investors do not know what to do. when the interest rate is negative, you have to search continuously and that will go on until it stops which could be years from now. it is extraordinary. manus: the ecb is stepping in and they are doubling the amount of bonds issued around europe and that is more than what did he said has ever done in a relative sense. the fed potentially going off of patient. could they tighten, shouldn't they tighten? david kotok: they have to get away from zero. zero distorts so much and the fed knows that. how to get away from zero when t