greg swenson and ingrid tarrant.or being with me evening . welcome back. once more to neil oliver live now, a church in surrey will hold services for pets tomorrow. dogs and cats and all else besides, will be made welcome in three churches in the pansh welcome in three churches in the parish of badshot, lea and hale. joining me to contemplate the possibility of chaos is reverend stella wiseman. good evening, reverend wiseman. thank you for joining me . joining me. >> good evening, neil. >> good evening, neil. >> i really do have to ask you why , why, why are you opening why, why, why are you opening these church doors to dogs and cats and the rest when i was under the impression that churches were for folk ? churches were for folk? >> well , because dogs and cats >> well, because dogs and cats and all the rest are very much part of our families and they are something to celebrate. and we're doing this. we do this every year, very close to the feast day of saint francis of assisi, who was known for his love of animals