according to a new poll by the research center, the university of wisconsin-madison. 44 inleads 53 to wisconsin. this poll was taken october 13 through the 21st. it's a bigger lead than he had in september. what's the lay of the land now? caller: the polling in wisconsin is pretty steady. having a is typically smaller lead for joe biden than what he has had in the national polls. in wisconsin polling that has arranged with most of the polls falling within a four to 10 point range. some people think the numbers closer to the small end, something gets closer to the large end, but it's very consistently showing biden ahead , despite all the twists and turns in the campaign. despite some chattering events and developments we have had. the numbers have never really changed too much. there's not a lot of evidence in the polling that the leader -- the lead is shrinking. it's not clear that it's getting bigger. we have to see more pre-election polls to know that. but the lay of the land is based on the polling, joe biden has lead. but the state is in play. both sides are putting everything in