let's get back to our guest, innes willox.i wanted to get back to what we were talking about. in terms of the severity of the lockdown, we know in the case of new zealand, a sharp lockdown does work. could that not be the best case and area in terms of giving certainty to the victorian economy, rather than sort of leaving it semi-open and risking clusters emerging? we know how fast these clusters of infections can take place and spread. innes: i think the concern here is this is our second lockdown in victoria. we have gone through this now since mid-march. we have been in various stages of lockdown and we have a slight reopening, which was a full reopening, and now we are back into total lockdown. i think what we would call here nature oftart reopening is really impacting business sentiment. so what we are saying is that you have to find ways to adapt and to live with this. is not going to go away anytime soon, unfortunately, but there have to be more alternatives, more nuanced, more localized alternatives to shutting down en