in terms of the eliminating play to pay and appearances and inproprietor, the thousand dollar safe harbor is an appropriate amount that strikes a balance. that's our position, but happy to discuss and receive questions on that issue or other parts of the amendments the commission would like to discuss. >> thank you. >> thank you. actually thank you mr. heckle and supervisor peskin and thank you mr. flynn for your update. taking time to share with us. commissioners, if you have comments or questions? for our guests. let's first turn to vice chair bush. to see if he has comments or questions? vice chair bush? >> can you hear me? >> yes. first, i would like to thank my colleagues and the chair for your indulgence of my challenge as i tried to participate in the meeting. i do want to participate and i appreciate the work getting us up to this point. in terms of the thousand dollar threshold, do you [inaudible] the kind of examples of "the real world". for example, do you have many examples of people directing a thousand dollars in the behested payment as opposed to somebody doing 250? >> it s