mytion on something like rwandait makes sense for us to inrvene in genocide or humatarian efforts.se are viewes that are rm consistent. obviously, thexperience of the la . year being presidenteepens and enrich that general philosophy. buit's one that i have held for some time. >> lehrer: you brought tho into the presency. they were just hone by ts experien. >> absutely. i thk if you look at my previous speeches and itings, th're fairly consistent. it is very important for think ose of us who desperately wa peac , who e war as at some level breakdown , a manifestion of human weakness, to undstand that sometimes it's necessary. to beay to balance two ideas the same time, that we are constantly striving for pee. we are doubling up on our plomacy. we are gng to actively engage. we are gng to try to see the world through otr people's eyes and notust our own. we will invest in things lik preventing clima change, that we're gointo invest in development ai not because it's charitybut because it's in our self-terest-- we're going to do all ose things and then there are going to be tes when

. >> brown: is there aay to inrvene at an earlier point?at would be thobvious question, to reach tse people earlie >> definitely. looking at minneapolis, yog somalis gointo spol ya and other incidents. i thk we have done a good job a community and as a countr that we intercepted this aa good time. neighbor the fute we can prevent itven from happening by owning up tthis problem, dealing with this issue, lting peoplealk about the issues th they're frustrated and give em the space and go to the point of r calization and y to rebutwhether theologically, spitually, socially and politically. make it diffult for them to think about ese bad options. >> brown: just iour last minute, you're talking with w enforcement he. we had a colleague of urs on our show lt night talking about the americ implicated in the mumbaittacks. this is another case wre they clearly must be worrd about the pontial here. >> absolutely. they're very worri about this and woied about the guy from somalia. they're worried about two pele from the new yorarea. they've very, very