and then the substance, we'll see what the decision is, but it was -- they were instiered. it was lovely to seeopleere so e the opportunity to go there. >> you talk about the -- tax loopholes for oil companies. >> yes. >> bipartisan work done by the research service that cost to oil companies can actually be passed on to consumers. why support a bill that could actually raise taxes when -- raise gas prices when gas prices are already so high? >> well, i think you speak to the bankruptcy of decency in the whole companies, the big five, making -- i'm not talking talking about the big five. makes tens of billions of dollar as quarter in profits. record-breaking, historic. why do they need an incentive to drill? and i have had republicans say to me, you want to reduce the budget by $38 billion bythe tax subsidies for big oil. you could save that much by taking the money out of pell grants. it's a different value system here, as to how you do a budget. and so i think that keeping america number one is very important. honoring the re -- rewarding an indu billions of dollar as qua