also known as bergoglio oleg turii, we are joined by oleg, director of the institute of church history of the ukrainian catholic universitymr. oleg oleg oleg oleg oleg oleg oleg god forever scan the system by name greetings good day greetings to each other and greetings from happy birthday, thank you, mr. oleg . actually, have you seen this cover of a polish weekly magazine, how do you like it ? i see it in honey. preserves its style and , so to speak, directly depicted what many probably associated in connection with those statements. so it's like an illustration that obviously reflects , let's say just one part, but a very significant part of this whole story, which by and large you know is quite unpleasant, unpleasant for ukrainians, for us, as ukrainians, and especially unpleasant for catholics, and you know that the reaction of the greek-catholic and roman-catholic hierarchy to these statements of the pope in russia was i would he said quite firmly. obviously, in di wording, but certain things were said very clearly . it's just that there's a person somewhere in the vatican, there's that pope . he's an important pers