affects the economy and the lives of those who remain and what can be done about it in the future with ella illibanova director of the institute of demography and social research ms. ele i congratulate you good day so, do you have data on how many ukrainians as of now he is abroad a-a and z- of course, i would like to er-e understand so, are there in these numbers in this number those who left and those who returned, please, well, it hurts to operate. if we talk about the western borders, according to the data of our border guards, then that in my opinion they are the most accurate and i understand that a certain part left without documents, but it cannot be very many. well, maybe there are percentages of 3 4 5, well, okay, let it be 10, but no more. accordingly, we do not know who left for what purpose , we can only think that at least in the first month after the war began, people left fleeing the horrors of the war for reasons of safety of their property, those children, and so on. people left ukraine during this period, and consider that this is a balance, that this is an increase in the number of migrants who are connected to the war, it is somewhere up to 2 mill