on the air say again, don’t be silent, and our guest is the director of the institute of housing and communal services of the national academy of scienceslist of plastic utensils in public catering establishments is done. this was within the framework of the resolution of the council of ministers, and a gradual reduction in the use of polymer packaging. well, let's say, let's say from plastic plastic bags. in principle, you can refuse by replacing them. well, for the same paper ones, or degradable ones, but with plastic packaging, not everything is as simple as it seems to me. that is, right away, but refusing and replacing it with something is quite problematic. well, that’s what we’re talking about in the resolution, then there is a gradual uh reduction where we uh, we can’t give up today, we shouldn’t give up and eat certain foods. there are certain products. this must be admitted. uh, but there is room for reduction. uh, the use of plastic packaging, including uh, plastic packaging in general, about 50% is taken up by packaging containers, but in general, uh, plastic. well, for starters, at least refuse. from using a huge number of