perspective on the story now we have to be escorts with us he is professor of public health and epidemiology and director of the institute of public health at the sheraton a hospital here in berlin to b.s. good to have you back with us what do you make of these findings what his findings were expected so we have data from spain pointing towards the same ballpark direction that about 5 to 10 percent of the general population have antibodies against a source close to and that we have far away form herd immunity or being protected from the so-called 2nd wave so they don't confirming what we have expected and show for the 1st time how widespread the virus is and the general relation that is not as much as we have hoped for maybe that being said the study we have to say was conducted in a very small villages only about 6000 people there so how much can it really tell us about how to deal with the virus in other parts of the country. yeah that's a very good question it's not possible to really project these numbers to other areas in germany so we notice if areas are very heavily affected such as northern italy you may expect a

perspective on the story now we have toby esquith with us he's a professor of public health in epidemiology and director of the institute of public health at the berlin to b.s. good to have you with us do you agree with the head of the doctors union are we seeing that 2nd wave now already in germany well it's a little bit of a definition question the numbers are rising for sure a way if you can actually see over time when you have the rising and then decreasing which then has the form of away from but yes the numbers are certainly alarming and we have to really really take care that we keep distancing wearing masks that are are you worried that people are precisely getting tired of some of those restrictions on things like wearing masks and also a social distancing. will most people take it very seriously some are getting tired or don't take it serious and that's the issue and also in travel or travelers coming back as you know they're getting tested it's very important to take a test that because as symptomatic cases right now the further increase the spread of the virus what measures do you think should be put in plac

i host this series, coproduction of the george washington university's institute school of public health. we are talking to amazing people on the front lines of this pandemic with their knowledge and expense about how we survived it. today, a special opportunity to talk about doctor anthony fauci, director of the infectious disease. directed since 1984 and worked with six presidents on some of the most difficult challenging health crisis to confront humanity. hiv-aids, ebola, topeka will probably nothing on the dangerous disruption, divisive

quote he is professor of public health and epidemiology and is the director of the institute of public health at the sheraton hospital here in berlin good to have you with us as a clearly case numbers are rising again is this already the much talked about 2nd wave. it's correct of the numbers are rising over the last couple of days whether this is the start of the so-called 2nd wave is unclear could be but we can also hope that the numbers are declining over the next those so it's a little bit too early to talk about a 2nd wave or it's good to hear an epidemiologist mentioning the word hope we all of those really hope that things are getting better but when we talk about this 2nd waif what exactly is it how do you define a 2nd wave. well i think there's no clear definition of the way it's a pretty much hue see you wave when you plot the rates of infection over time so clearly there was a 1st away from the numbers were declining as the larger numbers are rising again whether this is then in the end the wave can only be seen retrospectively so when we look back we see that there was a 2n

a warning comes as the red carpet institute of public health reported the highest number of new cases in more than 3 months. temperatures on the only thing rising jaring germany's heat wave the robot coke institute for public health reported 1445 new cases on thursday the highest number since may fast. i want to say on behalf of the government the development of these numbers is worrying and they should worry yes we don't have a single big outbreak but many small and medium sized outbreaks across the country . many cases have been traced back to holiday makers returning from vacation as well as family gatherings and parties at 34 the average age among positive cases is also younger than in previous months. that means that infections are prevalent above all among younger people but thank goodness that means fewer serious cases that said there's still a risk because at some point you visit your parents your grandparents or maybe there are people among your friends with chronic illnesses underlying illness is perhaps there are people that work in health care in hospitals and other areas.

doctor goldman, she is the dean of the milton institute school of public health. pediatrician, maybe e-mail it just and has distinguished career in medicine. and health sciences, she served as the department of surgery. expert in later in academic medicine from surgeries and running surgeries, i'm signing up for you. i don't need it but when i do, i am there. and doctor sylvia. director of gw school and media fears . includes global health. host: doctor goldman can we start with you. very thoughtful approach and the divisions in this country what we need to communicate to create a better public health and document release he is the principal challenge that we are up against. >> i thought the director said very well when he talked about how we need to be working together. we need to be unified in our approach cross-country. and what is been most frustrating for many of us public health as our inability to do that has allowed the virus to continue to be living around the country amplifying and then turned background the quÉbec in the areas where we had an under cont

i host this series, coproduction of the george washington university's institute school of public health talking to amazing people on the front lines of this pandemic with their knowledge and expense about how we survived it. today, a special opportunity to talk about doctor anthony fauci, director of the infectious disease. directed

lynn goldman, she is the michael and lori milken dean of the milken institute school of public health. a pediatrician, environmental epidemiologist and had a distinguished career in medical health. and the dean of the gw school of medicine and health sciences, and before coming to gw, department of surgery at houston methodist hospital a leader in surgery and when i say surgery, i'm signing up, i hope i don't need it, but when i do, i'm there. finally, sylvia, dr. sylvia, director of gw school of media and public affairs and expertise and includes global media. dr. goldman, can we start with you? you heard tony fauci right now, what we need to create a better public health environment. what do you see as the principal challenge that he and we are up against? >> well, i thought that dr. fauci put it very well when he talked about we need to be working together. we need to be unified in our approach across this country and what has been the most frustrating for many of us in public health is how our inability to do that has allowed the virus to continue to be moving around the country,

according to the "jama" network, cdc, institute of public health, the ama have not kept it simple. ernment websites when it comes to explaining all of us how to deal with covid or what the symptoms of covid are, how to give treatment. they gave a lot of interesting things about how the text is too complicated. syllables per word, too many. the text itself, too complicated. too many words per sentence. 18 different websites about covid had at least one difficult term. their theory we're supposed to be disseminating medical information, cdc says at 8 of this grade level. all the information is at 11th grade level. maybe you don't want people to get sick, explain it to them a little simpler than you've been doing, everybody. charles: here is the thing, when i joined the air force and i was a security policeman in the air force. so we took a lot of arms training, we used army manuals. they were written in such a simplistic way. i remember asking an instructor, they said they had done a survey, most people read at a certain level. i'm not sure it was 8th grade. i think he said something

of public health england but of government itself. and i think one of the things we should be really concerned about is if this leads to more central government control over our public health institutionsh. there are also real concerns about the timing of the government's decision to shake up the system, this taking place in the midst of the pandemic. some experts say it is vital the inquiry promised by the government go—ahead —— goes ahead. inquiry promised by the government go-ahead -- goes ahead. we cannot learn the lessons of what went wrong across multiple organisations and put the blame on one organisation are not learned the lessons across the whole system. it will leave us less prepared when you go into any subsequent ways of the pandemic. the government insists changes needed saying the merger of different health agencies will give a stronger, morejoined health agencies will give a stronger, more joined up health agencies will give a stronger, morejoined up response to protect people and communities. 0ur health editor hugh pym is here. what is going on and how concerned should we be? officially, the line from the government at westminster is this is a new national institute fo

of public health england but of government itself. and i think one of the things we should be really concerned about is if this leads to more central government control over our public health institutionsout the timing of the government's decision to shake up the system, this taking place in the midst of the pandemic. some experts say it is vital the inquiry promised by the government goes ahead. without that inquiry we cannot learn the lessons of what went wrong across multiple organisations and just pinning the blame on one across multiple organisationsand just pinning the blame on one organisation and not learning the lessons across the whole system will leave us less prepared as we go into any subsequent wave of the pandemic. but the government insists change is needed, saying the merger of different health agencies will enable a stronger, morejoined up response to protect people and their communities. the number of adults in britain experiencing depression has almost doubled during the coronavirus pandemic, according to new figures. data from the office for national statistics showed that one in five people are now experiencing some level of depression, compared with around one in

lynn goldman, she is the michael and lori milken dean of the milken institute school of public healthshe is a pediatrician, environmental epidemiologist and has had a distinguished career in medicine. dr. barbara bass is the dean of the -- gw she servedto as the chair of the department of -- expert and leader in academic medicine and surgery. when i mean surgery, i am signing up with you. i hope i don't need it but when , i do, i'm there. and dr. sylvia -- director of gw school of media and public affairs. [indiscernible] dr. goldman, can we start with you? you heard a number of things from tony fauci just now. what we need to communicate for a better public health and environment. what do you see as the principal challenge we are up against? >> i thought dr. fauci put it very well when he talked about we need to be working together. we need to be unified in our approach to this across our country. what has been the most frustrating for many of us in public health is how our inability to do that has allowed the virus to continue to be moving around the country, amplifying, and able to

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hearing about donald trump is he's not capable of being oppressed you know our political institutions are crumbling as a result of his leadership our public health and economic institutions are crumbling as a result of his failed leadership as you've been hearing that and what we know historically is that coming out of these conventions and there is a bump that you'll see coming you know from one party or the next but what we've also been seeing in the polling is that there's been a real stability in terms of how people are really thinking about donald trump how they knew about joe biden and so look when you have 26000000 people tuning it it's not just about preaching to the choir i think when you look at former ohio governor john case it's the yesterday he's a republican right and so he was telling the story of what republicans who are considered moderate from his perspective were going to be considered moderate republicans who really want to see this country in a different direction of thinking and so you know that's part of the narrative that we're seeing. good to talk to derek and their diploma their democratic strategist joining us from was

carla freeman, executive director of the johns hopkins school of advanced international studies foreign policy institute. school of public health by michael bloomberg, the founder of bloomberg lp and bluebird financial -- philanthropies. we get more on u.s.-china tensions with charles freeman coming up. deal finalized, goldman sachs completing a 3.9 lun dollars settlement with the malaysian government over the -- $3.9 billion settlement with the malaysian government over the 1mdb deal. ♪ haidi: goldman sachs and malaysia sign an agreement to finalize a $3.9 billion settlement over the one mbd scandal. what do we know? >> this is a big step for goldman in its attempts to put it theb scandal behind agreement was reached in principle in july and with it not formalized, malaysia's to drop charges against u.s. in exchange for the settlement which according to sources will $2.5 billion in cash within 10 days of the deal being signed. shery: what is the implication for investigations by the u.s. justice department? it would seem there are no major implications. goldman is said to be near a deal with doj this month that could remove th

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of course it must be possible to provide the results all. these difficulties come at a bad time throughout germany koroma infections are on the rise again the robert cock institute for public health reporting 1445 new cases on thursday the highest number since may the 1st. now let's take a look at some of the latest developments in the pandemic the world health organization says it has requested a review of results of russia's trials of the vaccine its authorized for use described meters less advanced than others which are still under growing trials the spanish region of going to syria has a ban smoking on the streets as part of social distancing measures as the country battles a 2nd wave of infections a new zealand has traced a new outbreak to a cold storage warehouse according to a breach is one of the suspected causes the war of words is brewing over the role of the tiny german port of sas and it's in the construction of a controversial gas pipeline from russia and germany is a foreign minister heiko masses told the us to mind its own business over the nord stream to pipeline as the us secretary of state it might pump aoe undertakes a european tour some u.s. republican senator

of not wearing masks. the numbers are rising germany's public health institute has recorded more than 1000 coronavirus cases twice this week the highest number of new infections in 3 months officials are growing concerned. 1 and shocked so how does a sweeping the virus in check is a marathon and a team effort we can only do it together. if an increasing number of clusters have emerged there's also the danger of people bringing back the virus from other countries frankfurt airport is offering free voluntary tests and starting this sunday people returning to germany from high risk areas will be required to take a test free of charge if taken within 3 days. voiced i am very aware that this is an infringement on personal freedom but i think it's a reasonable one if those who don't get tested in time face a fine of up to 25000 euros so will there also be steep fines for those who don't wear masks or practice so she'll distancing this government official says yes. there are states in germany that already have penalties in place and i have the feeling that people are becoming more aware of the importance of wearin

well here in germany there's been a sharp spike in the number of new corona virus infections the country's leading public health institute is warning that people are letting down their guard and not observing social distancing measures despite the. developments in central berlin today thousands of people were out on the streets protesting against coronavirus restrictions police were forced to break up the event after many participants ignored hygiene and distancing rules. that. free people chance this crowd during the coronavirus pandemic they say wearing a mask and appearing to restrictions is violating that freedom but it seems thousands agree the mixture of conspiracy theorists far right figures and citizens concerned by the economic effects of the law took to the streets of berlin to say the corona virus has been a false alarm. that's just plain scare tactics i don't see any danger i don't know any sick people i knew many sick people in march is vacationers there was really something going on in february and now there's no sick people anymore. i've got a friend who is 93 she's in a care home in her room totally isola

nice to have you with us here in germany the number of corona virus infections has soared in recent days the country's leading public health institute is warning that people are letting down their guard and not observing social distancing measures ironic then that in central berlin today thousands of people were out on the streets protesting against coronavirus restrictions organizers were forced to call off the event early as strict hygiene and dissing singles were. not being and here to conspiracy theories facts years and right wing extremists from across the country were among those in attendance it comes as germany braces for a potential 2nd wave of the coronavirus. d w political correspondent lenny vaughn hamish dean is at the protest now and she joins me so lainie the demonstration was called off by the police a short while ago what exactly happened. exactly according to the police and the demonstrations was called off over loudspeakers because complied complaints have been filed against the organizers because as you said just now nobody is here it's too social distancing rules nobody maybe you can see it behind me and is wear

the national institute for health protection will take over the role from public health england — which has been criticised for its handling ofugh pym reports. protecting the public from health emergencies and helping people live healthier lifestyles, that was the role of public health england but now it is being carved up. it was involved in the official response to covid—19 and things did not all go according to plan and now a chunk of its work will be combined with the test and trace network to form a new group to tackle the virus. we will have a new national institute for health protection whose sole mission is to respond to the pandemic and spot for future risks and future pandemics and bring all that together under one roof. phe was involved in a controversial move to suspend virus testing. on march the 11th nhs england with phe announced plans to boost testing from 2000 per day to 10,000 but the next day the government said that community testing and chasing was to be halted with capacity focused on hospitals. on march 26th, the deputy chief medical officer said that community testing was not an appropriate mechanism a

ok welcome to the program here in germany the number of corona virus infections has soared in recent days the country's leading public health institute is warning that people are letting down their guard and not observing social distancing measures maybe it's ironic that that in central grooming today thousands of people have been out on the streets protesting against coronavirus restrictions police force organizers to call off part of the event early and strict hygiene and . just we're not being that here to the demonstrators who are still there are being told to put on masks and keep their distance or simply go home. political correspondent later in the sun hum a shiny eased out to protest and she joins me now so laney as we were talking before i mean this protest has been called off at least more than an hour ago but as i look over your shoulder i see that there are still people there what exactly is going on exactly just minutes ago and time minutes ago the police made them out an ounce man saying it would now move in to dissolve the protest and next to me and policemen were moving into the crowd of people that is still got out h

okun welcome to the program here in germany the number of corona virus infections has soared in recent days the country's leading public health institute is warning that people are letting down their guard and not observing social distancing measures maybe it's ironic then that in central berlin today thousands of people have been out on the streets protesting against grown a virus restrictions police force organizers to call off part of the event early as strict high. gene and dissing to those who are not being adhere to the demonstrators who are still there are being told to put on mass in keep their distance will go. i report a reporter leona of the $100.00 shiny who is at the protest gave me an update on the situation but lisa made them out an ounce man saying it would now move in to dissolve the protest and next to me and policemen were moving into the crowd of people that is still got out you're completely right behind me they've been chanting views into us like we are the people are trying they want a lot of the people i talk to say they will continue protesting they want to keep across the life but police are now taking measure

of not wearing masks least. the numbers are rising germany's public health institute has recorded more than 8000 coronavirus cases twice this week the highest number of new infections in 3 months officials are growing concerned. and shocked so how does a sweeping the virus in check is a marathon and a team effort we can only do it together you might see. an increasing number of clusters have emerged there's also the danger of people bringing back the virus from other countries frankfurt airport is offering free voluntary tests and starting this saturday returning to germany from high risk areas will be required to take a test free of charge if it's taken within 3 days. of a voice i am very aware that this is an infringement on personal freedom but i think it's a reasonable one if. those who don't get tested in time face a fine of up to 25000 euros. so will there be steep fines for those who don't wear masks or practice social distancing this government official says yes. there are states in germany that already have penalties in place and i have the feeling that people are becoming more aware of the importance of

of not wearing masks. the numbers are rising germany's public health institute has recorded more than 5000 coronavirus cases twice this week the highest number of new infections in 3 months officials are growing concerned. in shots being a virus in check is a marathon and a team effort we can only do it together you might see. an increasing number of clusters have emerged there's also the danger of people bringing back the virus from other countries frankfurt airport is offering free voluntary tests and starting this saturday returning to germany from high risk areas will be required to take a test free of charge if it's taken within 3 days. i am very aware that this is an infringement on personal freedom but i think it's a reasonable one of. those who don't get tested in time face a fine of up to 25000 euros so will there be steep fines for those who don't wear masks or practice social distancing this government official says yes it's good you're someone who's going because there are states in germany that already have penalties in place and i have the feeling that people are becoming more aware of the imp

glad to have you with us here in germany the number of corona virus infections has soared in recent days the country's leading public health institute is warning that people are letting down their guard and not observing social distancing measures ironic then that berlin is set to see its biggest demonstration against coronavirus restrictions thousands of people are gathered in the germans. capitol central park for a mass rally demanding an end to all virus related restrictions conspiracy theorists and right wing the extremists from across the country are among those attending it comes as germany braces for a potential 2nd wave of the coronavirus. political correspondent. and ease at the protest and she joins me now laney welcome what's happening where you are. well i'm sounding here behind me tens of thousands i'd say these 15000 people have gathered you described before they call it's day of freedom the end of the time to make they are celebrating the end of her grown up virus and i made as always she's i warning of a nice urchin of infection and right on the other side you can see the counter protesters that have also got as she

written welcome to the program here in germany the number of corona virus infections has soared in recent days the country's leading public health institute is warning that people are letting their god down and not observing social distancing measures ironic then that berlin is set to say its biggest demonstration against coronavirus restrictions thousands of people are gathering right now in the german capital central to go out and park for. a mass rally demanding an end to require its related restrictions conspiracy theorists and he vacs is and right wing extremists from across the country are among those attending it comes as germany braces for a potential 2nd wave of the coronavirus. political correspondent leoni on how much time is at the protest and she joins me now leoni not a lot of mosque where behind you and surprisingly what's happening where you are. exactly you said you said it exactly right behind me behind me is one of the protesters this is an occurrence that's happened quite a bit over the past 2 hours that we've been here a very being this protest as you said it for the biggest protests against the measures imposed by th

every time the president politicizes any type of public health institutions he erodes the trust in those public health institutions. he has done it with the cdc and nih and by this political move they are potentially doing that to the fda as well. >> which way is up, based on the politicalization of such issues which are clearly about medicine? when we look at what is reportable and what we heard from the white house and from other reporting agencies, they have moved to an emergency use okay meaning as early as three days they can apply the therapy again of convalescent plasma. what peter march, the director of the fda center told "the wall street journal" is that the hospital -- hospitalized patients that received the plasma within three days of diagnosis are under the age of 80, not on mechanical ventilation, benefitted the most with a 35% improvement in survival 30 days after receiving the transfusion compared to patients that got plasma with low antibody levels according to dr. marx from the fda. dr. gupta, still facing the problem of what is the control group and the details around

to have you with us here in germany the number of corona virus infections has seen a sharp rise in recent days the country's leading public health institute is warning that people are letting down their guard and not observing social distancing measures while despite these developments in central berlin today thousands of people have been out on the streets protesting against coronavirus restrictions. police force organizers to call off part of the event early after many participants ignored hygiene and distancing demonstrators who are still there are being told to put on masks and keep their distance where else go home. with me in the studio now is d.w. political correspondent leone if and how much time he was at the protests and many you were out there for hours you told me you spoke to lots of people there what were they telling you what were their demands while oh there are a lot of different people out there now as you said we spoke to many of them some of their demands included including by the organizers who put their demands in a document before the event saying calling on the balance the end of the pen demick they call this the d

of the elder care and all the other extremely important. services this company minister let's just bring in schools and because both the public health agency of sweden and the finnish institute for health and welfare did a recent study over the school should open and close those you said you've tried to reopen finland actually closed down i mean what were the findings what's that what what were the findings of that report in terms of whether it is a good idea to open or close schools during this pandemic because it is a hot topic not just in europe but in north america at the moment and in many parts of asia as we get towards september when the new school term in university terms open and start made i think every country has to speak for their own decisions being made or not made but in sweden we didn't find that necessary to close down the preschool in the primary school because we needed to have an open and which i don't find in the science so in the knowledge about the virus that the children and the very young persons will drive the infection. but we close down or we said that there yep a secondary school and the universities and the other learning schools and they were